[asterisk-users] Dry Copper Pair

[thg at interoil.com]

> Jon Pounder wrote:
>>> On 5/11/07, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 May 2007, C F said something to this effect:
>>>>
>>>>> Not according to Verizon (in my area anyhow), We tried it and it
>>>> didn't
>>>>> work. The verizon technician insisted it wasn't real PTP copper and
>>>>> therefore anything but analog voice might/should not work.
>>>>    What is "PTP copper"?  Unless it's an issue of gauge.  But as far
>>>> as
>>>> I
>>>> know, it's not.  All the standard copper used for POTS can be used for
>>>> a
>>>> T1 from a physical point of view, other aspects of conditioning/load
>>>> coils/etc/etc not withstanding.
>>> You are right, but that was not what I meant, in order for one to be
>>> able to provision their own T1 over a pair of copper, the line has to
>>> allow all traffic over all frequencies pass thru it. Which these lines
>>> do not, since they are simply not just one long copper pair simply
>>> cross connected.
>>
>> that's what "dry copper" is supposed to be, just a cross connect between
>> 2
>> pairs out of the CO. ie not even battery, line test equipment, or
>> anything
>> else hanging off it at the CO. any restriction should be purely a
>> function
>> of the inductance/capacitance of the wire and the connections and
>> nothing
>> else - anything else and you didn't get "dry copper" in the first place.
>>
>>
>> just out of curiousity - anyone ever hijack pairs and get away with it ?
>> (do your own cross connects on the street and utilize some crossconnect
>> all within one branch of F1 cable out of the CO ?)
>>
>> I've been tempted in the past, and know that at least around here I
>> would
>> probably get away with it for quite some time before anyone actually
>> cared
>> enough to investigate.
>
> Jon:
>
> Is Thorold rural?
>
> You wouldn't get away with this for ten minutes in an urban CO. I don't
> fancy spending the night in jail.
>
> -Stephen-

In some places a night in jail is getting off real easy. Try 3 months in
jail and then $multi thousands as a fine, and if you were acting on behalf
of a corporation, then $millions as a fine.

It is not misdemeanor issues, it is criminal.

T