[asterisk-users] Dry Copper Pair

[Stephen Bosch]

Jon Pounder wrote:
>> On 5/11/07, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 May 2007, C F said something to this effect:
>>>
>>>> Not according to Verizon (in my area anyhow), We tried it and it
>>> didn't
>>>> work. The verizon technician insisted it wasn't real PTP copper and
>>>> therefore anything but analog voice might/should not work.
>>>    What is "PTP copper"?  Unless it's an issue of gauge.  But as far as
>>> I
>>> know, it's not.  All the standard copper used for POTS can be used for a
>>> T1 from a physical point of view, other aspects of conditioning/load
>>> coils/etc/etc not withstanding.
>> You are right, but that was not what I meant, in order for one to be
>> able to provision their own T1 over a pair of copper, the line has to
>> allow all traffic over all frequencies pass thru it. Which these lines
>> do not, since they are simply not just one long copper pair simply
>> cross connected.
> 
> that's what "dry copper" is supposed to be, just a cross connect between 2
> pairs out of the CO. ie not even battery, line test equipment, or anything
> else hanging off it at the CO. any restriction should be purely a function
> of the inductance/capacitance of the wire and the connections and nothing
> else - anything else and you didn't get "dry copper" in the first place.
> 
> 
> just out of curiousity - anyone ever hijack pairs and get away with it ?
> (do your own cross connects on the street and utilize some crossconnect
> all within one branch of F1 cable out of the CO ?)
> 
> I've been tempted in the past, and know that at least around here I would
> probably get away with it for quite some time before anyone actually cared
> enough to investigate.

Jon:

Is Thorold rural?

You wouldn't get away with this for ten minutes in an urban CO. I don't
fancy spending the night in jail.

-Stephen-