[Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?

Sat May 7 11:17:02 MST 2005

Isn't amazing what has happened in the last five or six years with the 
Internet.  There is no design flaw with IPv4. It was created back when 
you were in diapers and with todays pda's having more power than the 
systems back then.  An industry protocol that is going strong 30 or more 
years is amazing in it's own right. How could they see the future of 
what we are doing today with the protocol.  I believe the engineers who 
designed IPv4 were brilliant men and did a great job designing  
something that is computer system neutral. 

Again in the the last few years VoIP has come a long way as the PSTN has 
had over 100 years to perfect theirs. If we did not have to interface 
with the PSTN don't you think we would be better off?  They didn't have 
to interface with anybody else.

Chris Coulthurst wrote:

>I tend to agree about the in-house being the 'stable part'.  Like
>anything else on the internet, if you don't have control of all parts
>(trunks and phones and dialplans), there are bound to be issues with
>uptime, and how your equipment responds to 'their' downtime.  It reminds
>me of the headaches I had as an ISP when a BGP4 route wouldn't switch to
>the redundant carrier, because the main carrier didn't really die, it
>just stopped transmitting!
>
>It's also worth noting the design flaws with IPv4 handling priority
>packets in the first place.  I think most of the little 'gotchas' in
>VoIP would magically vanish if QoS was something that could be depended
>upon.  All you need is one router to not know how to pass the qos token,
>and now you don't really have any!  Its another example hiw an in-house
>system can be stable when you hold all the cards.
>
>By the time IPv6 gets here, it will be amazingly obsolete...
>
>Chris Coulthurst
>chris at shuksan.com
> 
>
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
>|bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andre Normandin
>|Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:00 AM
>|To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>|Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
>|
>|I've had Broadvoice for over a year now, and although their outages are
>|really annoying, the fact that their service costs $20/month unlimited
>is
>|what keeps me with them..
>|
>|I have 2 Inbound #'s through them (same account), one in GA (678-253)
>and
>|one in CT (203-935), and overall their inbound has been more reliable
>than
>|their outbound (minus the past week or so)..
>|
>|I have my dialplan try BV first, and then if it cannot use BV for
>outbound,
>|it rolls to my pots line(s).. It actually works really well, except
>that if
>|BV goes completely toes up Asterisk decides that it doesn't want to do
>|anything either :-(
>|
>|That is what I find the most annoying, quite frankly, BV is having
>Growing
>|pains (in my opinion), and I can accept that, haven't put anything
>critical
>|on my BV inbound, and 90% of the time BV outbound works fine.. The rest
>of
>|the time, the pots take care of outbound, and anyone who calls me calls
>on
>|my pots lines (except for family in GA, which is why I have the GA #).
>|
>|For me personally, I just think VOIP is 'too' early in the maturity
>curve
>|to
>|really rely on it as a provider.. It's great in-house (medium/large
>|companies), but for service, I think pots are the way to have rock
>solid
>|service for the time being.
>|
>|I know of two of my friends that have Vonage as their only inbound
>numbers
>|(not via asterisk, via the vonage locked adapters, so it is completely
>|vonange), and their service also has issues at times.. Granted, I'm not
>|sure
>|if it's a true vonage issue, or their internet connection, but
>nonetheless,
>|there are still issues..
>|
>|If I could get Asterisk so it just work continue 'working' properly
>with
>|whatever SIP connections it can reach, I'd be a happy man..  Don't get
>me
>|wrong, I think Broadvoice needs to communicate better with their
>customer
>|base, and the latest ongoing outage is, to say the least, very
>frustrating,
>|but I am willing to cut them some slack because I think VOIP is still
>in
>|it's infancy, and broadvoice is the only BYOD provider I know that will
>|give
>|unlimited for $20.00/month..
>|
>| - Andre
>|
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>|[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Johnathan
>|Corgan
>|Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:58 AM
>|To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who's happy with their voip service?
>|
>|
>|JD wrote:
>|
>|> Inbound
>|> calling has been down for 2 days.
>|
>|Just FYI, mine is back up (408-903) as of about five hours ago.
>|
>|I did just speak with a (Broadvoice) support tech on an entirely
>|unrelated matter (40 min. hold time!), mentioned mine was working, and
>|he seemed to think things were coming back in stages.
>|
>|I've had them for two months now.  People may recall a series of emails
>|regarding packet loss through their PNAP link to Sprintlink (my ex-ISP
>|backbone.)  I ditched the Sprint BBD fixed-wireless service, got
>|Sonic.net DSL, and have been enjoying pretty high quality voice service
>|since.  The packet loss rates at PNAP still show but I think now this
>|shows it's an artificial measure (intentionally dropped non-VOIP
>|packets, all the other potential reasons hashed about in that thread.)
>|
>|In spite of the service outages and long hold times for support, I
>still
>|want to give them the benefit of the doubt (and my $25 monthly.)  It
>|still seems like growing pains vs. incompetency.
>|
>|I tried their web interface to change DIDs, as they now have them in my
>|home area code.  The effect was instant, I reconfigured sip.conf with
>|the new number and secret they provide, and something like 3 minutes
>|later was using the new DID.  So some things do work well.
>|
>|Wish they did IAX. And ILBC. Not that important to me right now,
>though.
>|
>|-Johnathan
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