[Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Thu Oct 2 08:06:00 MST 2003

Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all

We do sell the phones.

http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html

and digium cards

http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html 

plus new things real soon :)

and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
and I'll try like crazy to fix it.

john brown, ceo
chagres technologies, inc

ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
got its name from.  I used to live there ;)

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
> Josh,
> 
> Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention the sale of any Grandstream phones ....
> 
> Adam
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Roberson
> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
> 
> Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
> (direct copy/paste from auction)
> 
> -----Begin Copy/Paste-----
> 
> 
> Flash Based OS
> 
> Easy to install and manage,
> Cost effective,
> Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
> Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
> 
> Big information and management LCD blue back light 
> User friendly keypad 
> Universal AC/DC adapter
> Ergonomic design
>  
>  
>   
>  
> 25-button keypad 
> 12-digit caller ID LCD 
> Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
> Input: 100-240VAC 
> Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
>  1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
> 2.UL/CE/FCC
> 3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
>   
> 
> Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix) 
> 
> Web-Based Management 
> 
> TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support 
> 
> Free Flash Firmware update 
> 
> No User Licenses 
> 
> System Restart/ Shutdown 
> 
> Password Access control 
> 
> 1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface) 
> 
> Support STUN and SIMPLE extension 
> 
> Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products 
> 
>  
> 
>  
>  DSP technology for the best voice quality 
> 
> Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
> (alaw 
> and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D) 
> 
> In and out-off-band DTMF 
> 
> Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
> speakerphone, 
> redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator 
> 
> Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
> DiffServ, MPLS) 
> 
> Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP 
> 
> Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
> (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
> (Automatic Gain 
> Control) 
> 
> -----End Copy/Paste-----
> 
> Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
> 102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
> Grandstream's product brochure.  
> 
> Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
> with it.. I will tell you this though:
> 
> Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
> asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
> 
> </rant>
> 
> --------------------------
> Josh Roberson
> Indigent Networks
> 1.877.677.9647 x1
> twisted at indigent.sytes.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas 
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
> 
> I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
> at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
> way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
> thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
> year.
> 
> I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
> Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
> phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
> out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
> they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel my
> bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Andrew Kohlsmith <akohlsmith-asterisk at benshaw.com>
> Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400
> 
> >> Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
> 101 as
> >> the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
> Beware.
> >
> >There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves to
> get 
> >suckered.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Andrew
> >_______________________________________________
> >Asterisk-Users mailing list
> >Asterisk-Users at lists.digium.com
> >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> >
> 
> --
> Costas Menico
> Meezon Software Corp
> 201-224-8111
> costas at meezon.com
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