[Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Thu Oct 2 05:49:13 MST 2003

If you had taken the time to read you would have noticed. 

1) Nowhere does he mention this is the 101.
2) He mentions 102D and the nice cool features. (look at your own cut/paste)
3) He priced it way above the list price. 

In addition he removed the original 16x2 LCD mention. I have a copy of it on my desktop.  If you don't believe me. I will send you the original. Still someone readin this would get the impression its the 102D.

Next thing you will be telling me to read his mind.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Josh Roberson" <twisted at indigent.sytes.net>
Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:04:05 -0500

>Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
>(direct copy/paste from auction)
>
>-----Begin Copy/Paste-----
>
>
>Flash Based OS
>
>Easy to install and manage,
>Cost effective,
>Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
>Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
>
>Big information and management LCD blue back light 
>User friendly keypad 
>Universal AC/DC adapter
>Ergonomic design
> 
> 
>  
> 
>25-button keypad 
>12-digit caller ID LCD 
>Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
>Input: 100-240VAC 
>Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
> 1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
>2.UL/CE/FCC
>3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
>  
>
>Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix) 
>
>Web-Based Management 
>
>TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support 
>
>Free Flash Firmware update 
>
>No User Licenses 
>
>System Restart/ Shutdown 
>
>Password Access control 
>
>1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface) 
>
>Support STUN and SIMPLE extension 
>
>Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products 
>
> 
>
> 
> DSP technology for the best voice quality 
>
>Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
>(alaw 
>and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D) 
>
>In and out-off-band DTMF 
>
>Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
>speakerphone, 
>redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator 
>
>Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
>DiffServ, MPLS) 
>
>Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP 
>
>Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
>(Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
>(Automatic Gain 
>Control) 
>
>-----End Copy/Paste-----
>
>Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
>102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
>Grandstream's product brochure.  
>
>Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
>with it.. I will tell you this though:
>
>Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
>asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
>
></rant>
>
>--------------------------
>Josh Roberson
>Indigent Networks
>1.877.677.9647 x1
>twisted at indigent.sytes.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas 
>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
>
>I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
>at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
>way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
>thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
>year.
>
>I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
>Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
>phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
>out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
>they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel my
>bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: Andrew Kohlsmith <akohlsmith-asterisk at benshaw.com>
>Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400
>
>>> Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
>101 as
>>> the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
>Beware.
>>
>>There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves to
>get 
>>suckered.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Andrew
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