[Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Josh Roberson twisted at indigent.sytes.net
Thu Oct 2 05:31:43 MST 2003 

My bad... It's a .net, not a .com :P

Oops... Sorry JMB (sheepish grin)

http://www.chagres.net

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Josh Roberson
Indigent Networks
1.877.677.9647 x1
twisted at indigent.sytes.net

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Low, Adam
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:22 AM
To: 'asterisk-users at lists.digium.com '
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Josh,

Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention
the sale of any Grandstream phones ....

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Roberson
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
(direct copy/paste from auction)

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Flash Based OS

Easy to install and manage,
Cost effective,
Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial

Big information and management LCD blue back light 
User friendly keypad 
Universal AC/DC adapter
Ergonomic design
 
 
  
 
25-button keypad 
12-digit caller ID LCD 
Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
Input: 100-240VAC 
Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
 1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
2.UL/CE/FCC
3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
  

Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix) 

Web-Based Management 

TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support 

Free Flash Firmware update 

No User Licenses 

System Restart/ Shutdown 

Password Access control 

1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface) 

Support STUN and SIMPLE extension 

Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products 

 

 
 DSP technology for the best voice quality 

Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
(alaw 
and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D) 

In and out-off-band DTMF 

Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
speakerphone, 
redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator 

Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
DiffServ, MPLS) 

Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP 

Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
(Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
(Automatic Gain 
Control) 

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Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
Grandstream's product brochure.  

Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
with it.. I will tell you this though:

Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)

</rant>

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Josh Roberson
Indigent Networks
1.877.677.9647 x1
twisted at indigent.sytes.net

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas 
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
year.

I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel my
bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Andrew Kohlsmith <akohlsmith-asterisk at benshaw.com>
Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400

>> Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
101 as
>> the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
Beware.
>
>There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves to
get 
>suckered.
>
>Regards,
>Andrew
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>Asterisk-Users at lists.digium.com
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>

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Meezon Software Corp
201-224-8111
costas at meezon.com

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