[asterisk-users] Sangoma vs Digium: (was Re: ping too)

Julian Lyndon-Smith asterisk at dotr.com
Sat Oct 6 10:39:08 CDT 2007


Thanks Matt,

Matt Florell wrote:
> On 10/6/07, Julian Lyndon-Smith <asterisk at dotr.com> wrote:
>> Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:
>>> Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:
>>>> Nothing from me is posting to the list either.
>>>>
>>> heh. Thought that this trick would work: it did for Doug.
>>>
>>> I've been trying to send the email below for 3 days now !
>>>
>>> I know this is probably going to ignite the flames again ..
>>>
>>> I have looked at the recent threads regarding these two manufacturers,
>>> but there didn't seem to be much *technical* differences between the 2,
>>> it was rather more subjective - some people say Sangoma is better, some
>>> say Digium. And quite a lot of "you're spreading FUD" "No, you are" etc.
>>>
>>> I wanted to know if anyone has any specific comparisons or suggestions
>>> on the Sangoma A104D and the Digium TE406/411 cards ?
>> I didn't want to start a flame war. I honestly just wanted a simple
>> "yes" or "no" to the question "Is a 406/411 technically comparable to
>> the a104D".
> 
> I think you mean the TE407/412 cards, the 406/411 series (using the
> OKI chipset instead of the Octasic) were discontinued by Digium. And
> while the Sangoma line uses "a104" as a base for all variations of
> their quad-port T1/E1 cards(PCI/PCIexpress/EC/non-EC) Digium has

I saw that today ;)

> several different product numbers for standard PCI(TE405P/410/407/412)
> and a different number for their PCIexpress cards(TE420) where it
> seems that they have changed their product naming scheme to be more
> similar to Sangoma's adding a "B" for the echo-can version of the
> card.
> 
> Here's a run-down of the available quad T1 cards from the 3 big players:
> Digium:
> - TE405P - PCI 5v-only, NO hardware EC
> - TE410P - PCI 3v-only, NO hardware EC
> - TE406P/TE411P - DISCONTINUED
> - TE407P - PCI 5v-only, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> - TE412P - PCI 3v-only, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> - TE420 - PCIexpress, NO hardware EC
> - TE420B - PCIexpress, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> 
> Rhino:
> - R4T1 - PCI, NO hardware EC
> - R4T1-e - PCIexpress, NO hardware EC
> - Add-on Octasic Echo Canceller
> 
> Sangoma:
> - a104 - PCI, NO Hardware EC
> - a104X - PCIexpress, NO Hardware EC
> - a104d - PCI, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> - a104dX - PCIexpress, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> 
> 
>>  From what I've read, the IRQ issues are not present any more on the
>> digium cards.
>>
>> Is the echo cancelling hardware comparable ?
>>
>> I need to install the new card in a dell 2850 or 2950 or possibly even a
>> HP DL360. Anyone have some comments on this ?
> 
> Do not use Dell. I have had issues with both Sangoma and Digium cards
> on multiple brand-new Dell servers. This is the only vendor that has
> consistently given me problems with telco-interface cards.

We've been running on a dell machine for a couple of years with no 
problems - but I've heard that lots of people have the problem. Would 
you recommend the HP then ?

> 
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> MATT---
> 
> 
>> fwiw, my heart says I should buy Digium. My head says I should buy
>> Sangoma. Either my head needs to be convinced that the TE406 is
>> technically as good and as reliable as the 104D, or my heart needs to
>> fall out of love with the romantic notion of supporting Digium because
>> of asterisk.
>>
>> Julian
>>> We have used the TE405 and te410 in the past, changed to sangoma A102
>>> (because of problems we were having at the time that we now think may
>>> have been telco related).
>>>
>>> Setting up the digium cards seemed simpler (no patching etc, and no
>>> extra wanrouter drivers) but the A102 seem very stable and reliable.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>>> Julian
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