[asterisk-users] Sangoma vs Digium: (was Re: ping too)

[Matt Florell]

On 10/6/07, Julian Lyndon-Smith <asterisk at dotr.com> wrote:
> Thanks Matt,
>
> Matt Florell wrote:
> > On 10/6/07, Julian Lyndon-Smith <asterisk at dotr.com> wrote:
> >> Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:
> >>> Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:
> >>>> Nothing from me is posting to the list either.
> >>>>
> >>> heh. Thought that this trick would work: it did for Doug.
> >>>
> >>> I've been trying to send the email below for 3 days now !
> >>>
> >>> I know this is probably going to ignite the flames again ..
> >>>
> >>> I have looked at the recent threads regarding these two manufacturers,
> >>> but there didn't seem to be much *technical* differences between the 2,
> >>> it was rather more subjective - some people say Sangoma is better, some
> >>> say Digium. And quite a lot of "you're spreading FUD" "No, you are" etc.
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to know if anyone has any specific comparisons or suggestions
> >>> on the Sangoma A104D and the Digium TE406/411 cards ?
> >> I didn't want to start a flame war. I honestly just wanted a simple
> >> "yes" or "no" to the question "Is a 406/411 technically comparable to
> >> the a104D".
> >
> > I think you mean the TE407/412 cards, the 406/411 series (using the
> > OKI chipset instead of the Octasic) were discontinued by Digium. And
> > while the Sangoma line uses "a104" as a base for all variations of
> > their quad-port T1/E1 cards(PCI/PCIexpress/EC/non-EC) Digium has
>
> I saw that today ;)
>
> > several different product numbers for standard PCI(TE405P/410/407/412)
> > and a different number for their PCIexpress cards(TE420) where it
> > seems that they have changed their product naming scheme to be more
> > similar to Sangoma's adding a "B" for the echo-can version of the
> > card.
> >
> > Here's a run-down of the available quad T1 cards from the 3 big players:
> > Digium:
> > - TE405P - PCI 5v-only, NO hardware EC
> > - TE410P - PCI 3v-only, NO hardware EC
> > - TE406P/TE411P - DISCONTINUED
> > - TE407P - PCI 5v-only, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> > - TE412P - PCI 3v-only, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> > - TE420 - PCIexpress, NO hardware EC
> > - TE420B - PCIexpress, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> >
> > Rhino:
> > - R4T1 - PCI, NO hardware EC
> > - R4T1-e - PCIexpress, NO hardware EC
> > - Add-on Octasic Echo Canceller
> >
> > Sangoma:
> > - a104 - PCI, NO Hardware EC
> > - a104X - PCIexpress, NO Hardware EC
> > - a104d - PCI, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> > - a104dX - PCIexpress, Octasic Hardware Echo-cancellation
> >
> >
> >>  From what I've read, the IRQ issues are not present any more on the
> >> digium cards.
> >>
> >> Is the echo cancelling hardware comparable ?
> >>
> >> I need to install the new card in a dell 2850 or 2950 or possibly even a
> >> HP DL360. Anyone have some comments on this ?
> >
> > Do not use Dell. I have had issues with both Sangoma and Digium cards
> > on multiple brand-new Dell servers. This is the only vendor that has
> > consistently given me problems with telco-interface cards.
>
> We've been running on a dell machine for a couple of years with no
> problems - but I've heard that lots of people have the problem. Would
> you recommend the HP then ?

One of my Dell-only clients switched to HP and they have not had any
issues since the switch. So yes I would recommend HP servers over Dell
servers when using quad T1 cards.

MATT---


> >
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > MATT---
> >
> >
> >> fwiw, my heart says I should buy Digium. My head says I should buy
> >> Sangoma. Either my head needs to be convinced that the TE406 is
> >> technically as good and as reliable as the 104D, or my heart needs to
> >> fall out of love with the romantic notion of supporting Digium because
> >> of asterisk.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>> We have used the TE405 and te410 in the past, changed to sangoma A102
> >>> (because of problems we were having at the time that we now think may
> >>> have been telco related).
> >>>
> >>> Setting up the digium cards seemed simpler (no patching etc, and no
> >>> extra wanrouter drivers) but the A102 seem very stable and reliable.
> >>>
> >>> Julian
> >>>
> >>>> Julian
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