[asterisk-users] no unicall on 1.4

Anton Krall akrall at intruder.com.mx
Fri Jan 5 10:19:22 MST 2007


I think you are misunderstanding several points here Moises.

I do give Digium a break like you said, that’s why you have options, you can
use digium cards or sangoma cards, it's up to you, I use digium cards from
time to time because I like to support digium in what they are doing.

But from the programmers perspective, if some open source software gets too
controlled by a company, then the synergy of open source is kind of broken,
all projects have rules and what I meant is that Digium right now is too
controlling and that’s why some programmers have decided to leave asterisk
and pursue other projects in which they fell more comfortable and can
provide code in an easier manner.

What I really have never liked is cases like what happened to unicall, there
was no news or announcements, simply , in 1.4 it's not there anymore :) and
you had to find out for yourself so, in one hand we have a lot of code
control and on the other a lack of communication from programmers, to digium
(which controls the code) to us...  this also applies for documentation and
changes, I know there is a change file but to be honest, sometimes it's not
clear enough and you have to go into the code and take a look at what was
changed... but this I can live with, after all, like you said, it is open
source..  

And I just want to say this again, I (and probably some others) am willing
to pay some $$ to Steve Underwood if he would consider porting unicall to
1.4.... Steve, please come back! :)
 



|-----Original Message-----
|From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
|bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Moises Silva
|Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:41 AM
|To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] no unicall on 1.4
|
|On 1/5/07, Anton Krall <akrall at intruder.com.mx> wrote:
|> when did asterisk turn from an open source project with very good
developers
|> nto a business that only focuses in $$$?
|They are not mutually exclusive.
|
|> That's why openpbx was born I guess....
|I dont think so. I think is more because of technical disagreements.
|
|> For example, samba is still free, and people are making a profit from it
by
|When does Asterisk stoped being free, sorry but I missed something? :)
|
|> In any case, I (and maybe some other folks) would definitely pay some $$
to
|> Steve is he would consider supporting unicall for 1.4... I've always
|> believed that if you make money with something, why not give some to the
|> good programmers that made it happen...
|Of course. What many buissiness people dont get is that programmers
|have to eat ;)
|And companies like Intruder and Office Connect are selling services
|based on software created by people for free, the least think those
|companies can do is support the programmers with money, the same thing
|you are getting, right?
|
|
|> probably Digium will end up hiring their own programmers...
|There are several programmers that work for Digium, but that does not mean
|the project stops being open source (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source )
|
|> what is Digium doing 100% right? HW? No, software, used to, but maybe not
now,
|so?
|Sangoma has a much bigger background in electronics, give Digium a
|break, they keep working hard on software, and I dont think they are
|going to quit, soon or later the software and hardware will get
|better.
|
|> come on guys at Digium, focus...
|> open source software was about making something by the community for the
|> community, not getting XXX million USD in VC while losing your best
|> programmers, the community and the R2MFC market :)
|Actually you need to read a little more about the open source term,
|and dont use it loosely.
|
|I think critics are good, eventually will push Digium to do better
|software, but Digium is still a company that needs to make money:
|money != evil.
|
|At the end, is open source/freesoftware, if you dont like it, nobody
|is stopping you from change it.
|
|Kind Regards
|
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