[asterisk-users] Softphones IAX vs. SIP, remote connectivity.
Nick Ellson
grimm at nickellson.com
Thu Sep 7 20:00:21 MST 2006
Erm.. I mean LOUDHush and I went to look and the features did not list
Video, but the phone was listed in the video softphone section of the
catalog search I did. So, I see FullDisclosure with vulnerabilities in
IAX2 Video, I see questions asking what happens when you go from SIP video
to IAX2.. But I have yet to see a IAX2 video softphone, commercial or
otherwise. Is the feature still a bit young? Or maybe to narrow a market?
Just not looking forward to setting up SIP again to try out video bewteen
relatives over the asterisk server.
Nick
--
Nick Ellson
CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Nick Ellson wrote:
>
> HUSHshout I think it was called...
>
> --
> Nick Ellson
> CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
> MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
> Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Blake Krone wrote:
>
>> Which one has video for the mac?
>>
>> On 9/7/06, Nick Ellson <grimm at nickellson.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello Michael,
>> >
>> > I just had both Mom and my brother up as extensions on my Asterisk pbx
>> > using IAX2, the Cubix phone for now, but I downloaded and tried
>> > several. I
>> > loke multiple lines, but a clean GUI is better for my family..
>> >
>> > Oh yeah, it worked flawlessly :)
>> >
>> > I open one port to my server udp/4569 and that was it. I shut the rest
>> > off.
>> >
>> > For remote family, IAX2 will be what I use right now.
>> >
>> > Anybody see a Video capable version for Windows? The MAC has one, darn
>> > it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nick
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Nick Ellson
>> > CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
>> > MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
>> > Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Ferguson, Michael wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi "Guys"
>> > >
>> > > I too am trying to do exactly the same thing in being a provider for
>> > family members. My Asterisk server is on a public ip, my home is behind
>> > a
>> > Watchguard Firebox, my job is also behind a Firebox. I am using a
>> > combination of Cisco 7960, Linksys 941 and XTEN Softphone. Sometimes it
>> > works and sometimes it does not.
>> > >
>> > > You idea on using a IAX2 softphone appears to be what will solve my
>> > problem.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks very much.... Post more ideas. 'preciate it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:
>> > asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nick Ellson
>> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:07 AM
>> > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Softphones IAX vs. SIP, remote
>> > connectivity.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Bruce,
>> > >
>> > > I *just* tested the XtremePhone, IAX2 softphone. Other than trying to
>> > figure out how to get it to send proper CallerID to the other phones,
>> > it
>> > worked right off, in both directions. Excellent!
>> > >
>> > > Perhaps working the IAX2 angle will be less of a hassle, I will go
>> > looking for one that does video now.
>> > >
>> > > Maybe it's time to buy an IAX2-ATA adaptor and see how well that
>> > > works
>> > over the net.
>> > >
>> > > Nick
>> > >
>> > > As for the SIP logs, I start Asterisk with -vvvvc already, I did a
>> > > sip
>> > debug and tried my call from the house to my remote SIP phone. YIKES!!
>> > > Gunna take a bit to understand all that, but I think I did see an
>> > INVITE, and a CANCEL twice in a row and I did not hit the hang-up
>> > switch.
>> > So
>> > that might explain why no connection is made, and the called gets my
>> > voice-mail (according to my wife)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Nick Ellson
>> > > CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
>> > > MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
>> > > Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Bruce Reeves wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Nick,
>> > > >
>> > > > I have done what you are talking about as far as being a provider
>> > > > for
>> > family
>> > > > members. I used an IAX softphone mainly to eliminate the need for
>> > > > so
>> > many
>> > > > holes in the firewall. And secondly because the idefisk IAX
>> > > > softphone
>> > > > allowed me to extract the zip version, configure the phone, and zip
>> > > > the
>> > > > folder up and email it to my family members. So for my mom it was
>> > simply
>> > > > unzip the folder and
>> > > >
>> > > > On 9/7/06, Nick Ellson <grimm at nickellson.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bob,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I will up the logs today, have my phone at work with me. (though
>> > > > > the
>> > Wife
>> > > > > and Kids are not up yet ;)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anything specific I should target?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Nick
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Nick Ellson
>> > > > > CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
>> > > > > MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
>> > > > > Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Bob Chiodini wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Nick,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Anything helpful in the asterisk or system logs.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Try bumping up the debug and verbose levels see what shows up
>> > > > > > on the
>> > > > > > console.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Weird that it would work inbound and not outbound.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Bob...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 04:48 -0700, Nick Ellson wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hey all,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > A previous annoyance with not being able to call out to my
>> > > > > > > brother
>> > on
>> > > > > FWD
>> > > > > > > from my Asterisk system had me thinking that since I have my
>> > > > > > > own
>> > PBX,
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > > that system has it's own 1-to-1 static NAT to the internet,
>> > > > > > > I
>> > should
>> > > > > > > be
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > able to act as the provider for him or any of my family, and
>> > > > > > > have
>> > them
>> > > > > as
>> > > > > > > local extensions of my PBX, right?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > So I took my laptop to work (using the X-Lite SIP softphone)
>> > > > > > > and
>> > watch
>> > > > > my
>> > > > > > > ACL logs on my router for any denies to my Asterisk box. As
>> > expected
>> > > > > > > udp/5060, then once that was open, a series of randomish
>> > > > > > > udp/10000+
>> > > > > > > requests. My phone registered, and I tried to call one of
>> > > > > > > the
>> > phones
>> > > > > > > behind a PAP2. Worked first shot, and just as clear and
>> > > > > > > responsive
>> > as
>> > > > > it
>> > > > > > > was when I was home. But, the phones at home could not call
>> > > > > > > me,
>> > they
>> > > > > when
>> > > > > > > to voice mail.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I had heard that SIP doesn't survive NAT all that well, and
>> > > > > > > that
>> > IAX
>> > > > > > > native phones do a better job. My question is, given my
>> > > > > > > description
>> > of
>> > > > > how
>> > > > > > > I am set up and what I am trying to accomplish, should I be
>> > > > > > > looking
>> > at
>> > > > > SIP
>> > > > > > > or is IAX a more robust choice? (I was hoping to get video
>> > > > > > > working
>> > as
>> > > > > > > well, h.263 I believe it is).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Nick
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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>> > > > Nortex Networks
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