[asterisk-users] Softphones IAX vs. SIP, remote connectivity.

Nick Ellson grimm at nickellson.com
Thu Sep 7 13:12:08 MST 2006 

HUSHshout I think it was called...

-- 
Nick Ellson
CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.


On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Blake Krone wrote:

> Which one has video for the mac?
>
> On 9/7/06, Nick Ellson <grimm at nickellson.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  Hello Michael,
>>
>>  I just had both Mom and my brother up as extensions on my Asterisk pbx
>>  using IAX2, the Cubix phone for now, but I downloaded and tried several. I
>>  loke multiple lines, but a clean GUI is better for my family..
>>
>>  Oh yeah, it worked flawlessly :)
>>
>>  I open one port to my server udp/4569 and that was it. I shut the rest
>>  off.
>>
>>  For remote family, IAX2 will be what I use right now.
>>
>>  Anybody see a Video capable version for Windows? The MAC has one, darn it.
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  Nick
>> 
>>
>>  --
>>  Nick Ellson
>>  CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
>>  MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
>>  Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.
>> 
>>
>>  On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Ferguson, Michael wrote:
>> 
>> >  Hi "Guys"
>> > 
>> >  I too am trying to do exactly the same thing in being a provider for
>>  family members. My Asterisk server is on a public ip, my home is behind a
>>  Watchguard Firebox, my job is also behind a Firebox. I am using a
>>  combination of Cisco 7960, Linksys 941 and XTEN Softphone. Sometimes it
>>  works and sometimes it does not.
>> > 
>> >  You idea on using a IAX2 softphone appears to be what will solve my
>>  problem.
>> > 
>> >  Thanks very much.... Post more ideas. 'preciate it.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> >  From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:
>>  asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nick Ellson
>> >  Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:07 AM
>> >  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> >  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Softphones IAX vs. SIP, remote
>>  connectivity.
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  Bruce,
>> > 
>> >  I *just* tested the XtremePhone, IAX2 softphone. Other than trying to
>>  figure out how to get it to send proper CallerID to the other phones, it
>>  worked right off, in both directions. Excellent!
>> > 
>> >  Perhaps working the IAX2 angle will be less of a hassle, I will go
>>  looking for one that does video now.
>> > 
>> >  Maybe it's time to buy an IAX2-ATA adaptor and see how well that works
>>  over the net.
>> > 
>> >  Nick
>> > 
>> >  As for the SIP logs, I start Asterisk with -vvvvc already, I did a sip
>>  debug and tried my call from the house to my remote SIP phone. YIKES!!
>> >  Gunna take a bit to understand all that, but I think I did see an
>>  INVITE, and a CANCEL twice in a row and I did not hit the hang-up switch.
>>  So
>>  that might explain why no connection is made, and the called gets my
>>  voice-mail (according to my wife)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  --
>> >  Nick Ellson
>> >  CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
>> >  MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
>> >  Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Bruce Reeves wrote:
>> > 
>> > >  Nick,
>> > > 
>> > >  I have done what you are talking about as far as being a provider for
>>  family
>> > >  members. I used an IAX softphone mainly to eliminate the need for so
>>  many
>> > >  holes in the firewall. And secondly because the idefisk IAX softphone
>> > >  allowed me to extract the zip version, configure the phone, and zip 
>> > >  the
>> > >  folder up and email it to my family members. So for my mom it was
>>  simply
>> > >  unzip the folder and
>> > > 
>> > >  On 9/7/06, Nick Ellson <grimm at nickellson.com> wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > >   Bob,
>> > > > 
>> > > >   I will up the logs today, have my phone at work with me. (though 
>> > > >   the
>>  Wife
>> > > >   and Kids are not up yet ;)
>> > > > 
>> > > >   Anything specific I should target?
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > >   Nick
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > >   --
>> > > >   Nick Ellson
>> > > >   CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, CCAI,
>> > > >   MCSE 2000, Security+, Network+
>> > > >   Network Hobbyist, VFR Private Pilot.
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > >   On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Bob Chiodini wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > >   Nick,
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >   Anything helpful in the asterisk or system logs.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >   Try bumping up the debug and verbose levels see what shows up on 
>> > > > >   the
>> > > > >   console.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >   Weird that it would work inbound and not outbound.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >   Bob...
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >   On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 04:48 -0700, Nick Ellson wrote:
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >   Hey all,
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >   A previous annoyance with not being able to call out to my 
>> > > > > >   brother
>>  on
>> > > >   FWD
>> > > > > >   from my Asterisk system had me thinking that since I have my 
>> > > > > >   own
>>  PBX,
>> > > >   and
>> > > > > >   that system has it's own 1-to-1 static NAT to the internet, I
>>  should
>> > > > > >   be
>> > > > 
>> > > > > >   able to act as the provider for him or any of my family, and 
>> > > > > >   have
>>  them
>> > > >   as
>> > > > > >   local extensions of my PBX, right?
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >   So I took my laptop to work (using the X-Lite SIP softphone) 
>> > > > > >   and
>>  watch
>> > > >   my
>> > > > > >   ACL logs on my router for any denies to my Asterisk box. As
>>  expected
>> > > > > >   udp/5060, then once that was open, a series of randomish 
>> > > > > >   udp/10000+
>> > > > > >   requests. My phone registered, and I tried to call one of the
>>  phones
>> > > > > >   behind a PAP2. Worked first shot, and just as clear and 
>> > > > > >   responsive
>>  as
>> > > >   it
>> > > > > >   was when I was home. But, the phones at home could not call me,
>>  they
>> > > >   when
>> > > > > >   to voice mail.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >   I had heard that SIP doesn't survive NAT all that well, and 
>> > > > > >   that
>>  IAX
>> > > > > >   native phones do a better job. My question is, given my 
>> > > > > >   description
>>  of
>> > > >   how
>> > > > > >   I am set up and what I am trying to accomplish, should I be 
>> > > > > >   looking
>>  at
>> > > >   SIP
>> > > > > >   or is IAX a more robust choice? (I was hoping to get video 
>> > > > > >   working
>>  as
>> > > > > >   well, h.263 I believe it is).
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >   Nick
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
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>> > >  --
>> > >  Bruce
>> > >  Nortex Networks
>> > > 
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