[asterisk-users] How big is *your* ego?

Mike Lynchfield theclubvoip at gmail.com
Fri Oct 13 08:57:04 MST 2006


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On 10/13/06, Matt Loretitsch <matt at bird-technologies.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.elna-america.com/tech_al_reliability.php
>
> Capacitors are one of the components on that motherboard that have a
> finite life span.  Other components are more or less tolerant of these
> changes over time.  Eventually the caps WILL fail...this could be 5
> years or 25, but it WILL happen with electrolytics.  I have a well
> maintained, regulated (3 phase power distribution all ups'd generator
> etc.) and vented data center (72F 40% relative humidity year round) and
> loose things once a week...typically hard disks, but power supplies
> often.  I monitor and graph temperature PER SERVER.
>
> Cpu's also in fact also have a limited life span due to
> electromigration.  Keeping a processor cool certainly does slow this
> process, but does not eliminate it completely.  This actually applies to
> most IC's, but it is more significant in processors where the layering
> process is extremely thin.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration
>
> Often there is no symptom of these events before something critical
> breaks.
>
> I'm not siding with anybody here, but there is some glaring
> mis-information in this thread.
>
> -Matt
>
> P.s. I do work with a lot of un-pro (claimed) dell equipment, but also
> hp9000, sun enterprise 10k, old as/400 f40, dec alpha, and yes, pix and
> netscreen.  They all quit at some point!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C F [mailto:shmaltz at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:18 PM
> To: J. Oquendo; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How big is *your* ego?
>
> <edited out for brevity and my point>
>
> >
> > > Motherboards in a
> > > well regulated maintained system that is ventilated good, don't just
>
> > > die.
> >
> > They don't? Funny, I've seen it happen from everything from AMD, Sun,
> > HP, SGI, you name it.
>
> You are telling me that it was: A. Well regulated B. Well maintained C.
> good ventilation, and it died suddenly, without giving you any hints
> before hand?
> I just don't believe you, I might have on one machine, but I'm not going
> to believe you since you said you seen it on every machine. BTW, have
> you ever seen a machine that survived everything and was just taken to
> the dump because it was outdated and wasn't needed anymore?
>
> >
> > > Hard drives should be installed in an array (have you ever heard of
> > > RAID). CPUs when the heat is taken care of, don't just die.
> >
> > Oh really? Sounds like you live in hardware Nirvana. How long have you
>
> > been in the computing environment?
>
> No they don't, they give some warnings like too hot.
>
>
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