Want to share these 13 packets ?<br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/13/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Matt Loretitsch</b> <<a href="mailto:matt@bird-technologies.com">matt@bird-technologies.com</a>> wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><a href="http://www.elna-america.com/tech_al_reliability.php">http://www.elna-america.com/tech_al_reliability.php
</a><br><br>Capacitors are one of the components on that motherboard that have a<br>finite life span. Other components are more or less tolerant of these<br>changes over time. Eventually the caps WILL fail...this could be 5
<br>years or 25, but it WILL happen with electrolytics. I have a well<br>maintained, regulated (3 phase power distribution all ups'd generator<br>etc.) and vented data center (72F 40% relative humidity year round) and<br>
loose things once a week...typically hard disks, but power supplies<br>often. I monitor and graph temperature PER SERVER.<br><br>Cpu's also in fact also have a limited life span due to<br>electromigration. Keeping a processor cool certainly does slow this
<br>process, but does not eliminate it completely. This actually applies to<br>most IC's, but it is more significant in processors where the layering<br>process is extremely thin.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration</a><br><br>Often there is no symptom of these events before something critical<br>breaks.<br><br>I'm not siding with anybody here, but there is some glaring<br>mis-information in this thread.
<br><br>-Matt<br><br>P.s. I do work with a lot of un-pro (claimed) dell equipment, but also<br>hp9000, sun enterprise 10k, old as/400 f40, dec alpha, and yes, pix and<br>netscreen. They all quit at some point!<br><br><br>
<br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: C F [mailto:<a href="mailto:shmaltz@gmail.com">shmaltz@gmail.com</a>]<br>Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:18 PM<br>To: J. Oquendo; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
<br>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How big is *your* ego?<br><br><edited out for brevity and my point><br><br>><br>> > Motherboards in a<br>> > well regulated maintained system that is ventilated good, don't just
<br><br>> > die.<br>><br>> They don't? Funny, I've seen it happen from everything from AMD, Sun,<br>> HP, SGI, you name it.<br><br>You are telling me that it was: A. Well regulated B. Well maintained C.<br>
good ventilation, and it died suddenly, without giving you any hints<br>before hand?<br>I just don't believe you, I might have on one machine, but I'm not going<br>to believe you since you said you seen it on every machine. BTW, have
<br>you ever seen a machine that survived everything and was just taken to<br>the dump because it was outdated and wasn't needed anymore?<br><br>><br>> > Hard drives should be installed in an array (have you ever heard of
<br>> > RAID). CPUs when the heat is taken care of, don't just die.<br>><br>> Oh really? Sounds like you live in hardware Nirvana. How long have you<br><br>> been in the computing environment?<br><br>No they don't, they give some warnings like too hot.
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