[Asterisk-Users] snom mass deployment (probably off topic)

Fri May 6 06:49:25 MST 2005

Nils

Firstly to the flash issue, if you are on a DHCP server this seems to
work.  If you are not then my particular handset does indeed lose its
config - or rather it invokes the "start up wizard" which does not
have the last settings to confirm, so to all intents it apears to have
lost its settings (although I now freely admit if you give it an IP
address and go into the web interface, all is not lost) - therefor my
appologies on that, however I would prefer to see the last settings in
the "setup wizard".

With regards to my second issue, regarding creative dns records
locally.  You state in your white paper, that you need to invoke
options 66 and 67 for the snom device to check an update server other
than snom's its self.
Prehaps again it is my error, however looking at ethereal packet
traces, the phone is supplied the dhcp options, but still attemps to
goto snom.com - would you be kind enough to supply sample config for a
dhcpd server, so I can be sure of the setup

Other than those two minor observations - I do indeed think that the
phone is one of the best in the market place, and I have bench tested
most user agents to date.

Thank you for your time on this matter.

David 

On 5/6/05, Nils Ohlmeier <Nils.Ohlmeier at snom.de> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> to prevent further rumores and wrong facts about our phones:
> 
> All our phones, and this includes the 360 as well, do store their settings on
> the flash. After the settings are stored once, you can leave the phone as
> long as you want without power, and it will come up with old settings
> whenever you restart it. If this is not the case the person which is facing
> the problem should contact the snom support to get this sorted out.
> 
> Regarding the real topic: did you already read our white-papers about
> mass-deployment and setting up snom phones?
> http://www.snom.com/white_papers.html
> You do not have to mess around with faked DNS responses. If the phone is
> getting a "settings" server via DHCP, it will never contact snom.com (expcept
> you say so). The phone just falls back to snom.com as a default setting, in
> case it cant find a setting server locally. But in case: you can even turn
> off that the phone tries to load any settings from any server.
> 
> Best regards
>   Nils Ohlmeier
> 
> On Friday 06 May 2005 05:40, Daniel Bingham wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > First, thanks for the reply to my questions about the Snom 360.  I may have
> > a few followup questions when I get a little more time.
> >
> > As for the 360 getting the configuration directly from Snom's servers, I
> > find that very backwards.  What if your phones have no gateway to the
> > internet?  It sounds like they are working around not having any flash
> > memory, but it's a poor workaround.  Your idea of using DNS to fool it into
> > going to your servers is a good one.  I assume you'll just put in a mapping
> > for provisioning.snom.com or just snom.com in your DNS server to the IP of
> > your web server.
> >
> > If I understand correctly, you will be able to create an
> > /snom360/snom360.php script on your web server, which you would then like
> > to redirect to the static html files in the /snom directory.  Assuming the
> > Snom supports redirects, the PHP code is as simple as:
> >
> > <?php header("Location: /snom/snom360-$_GET[mac].html") ?>
> >
> > If the phone doesn't support redirects, it gets a little complex, in that
> > the script will need to open the file from the filesystem and return it
> > directly.
> >
> > If I misunderstood or I didn't make sense, I'll be happy to try again.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Daniel Bingham
> > dan at apci.net
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [
> > mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > <mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com> ] On Behalf Of David John
> > Walsh Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:18 PM
> > To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] snom mass deployment (probably off topic)
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Although not stictly a asterisk issue, any help would be apreciated.
> >
> > Firstly a few notes on the snom 360, which I have had on a test bed for the
> > last week.  Its a great phone, with a good user interface, both physically
> > and its web based one.
> >
> > At its lastest firmware it does have a few quirks, with regards to the way
> > it handles usernames and passwords on the physical interface. These have
> > been passed back, and hopefully will be addressed.
> >
> > Its worst feature as I see it is twofold, with regards to its power fail
> > features.  If it loses power for more than a few minuites it loses its
> > settings - not the best thing in a world where routers and firewalls can be
> > given power back days later and be fine.
> >
> > It has an interesting configuration mode, it tries to contact snom, who
> > then (if told about it) goes to their national distrubtor who then either
> > has your config or passes it on again
> >
> > The settings file is well documented, and you can pull them direct from
> > phone in a ready to go way.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > I now have my configs in the file name format of snom360-{mac}.htm (where
> > {mac} is the MAC address of the phone in question)
> >
> > The phone initally tries to goto
> > provisioning.snom.com/snom360/snom360.html   this sends it onto
> > http://snom.com/snom360/snom360.php?mac=
> > <http://snom.com/snom360/snom360.php?mac=> {mac}
> >
> > Assuming that I perform some creative dns records on my dns server, would
> > someone be kind enough to write some sample php code to take the url
> >
> > http://snom.com/snom360/snom360.php?mac=
> > <http://snom.com/snom360/snom360.php?mac=> {mac}
> >
> > and provide the url http://asterisk-demo/snom/snom360-
> > <http://asterisk-demo/snom/snom360-> {mac}.html
> >
> > The code the url needs to go in is as follows:
> >
> > # Redirect all phones to the php script
> > setting_server: http://asterisk-demo/snom/snom360-
> > <http://asterisk-demo/snom/snom360-> {mac}.html
> >
> > I'm useless with php and most launguages, so thank you to any help this
> > request generates
> >
> > David
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