[Asterisk-Users] fxo cards

Thu May 22 09:01:41 MST 2003

I actually agree with you Steven :-)

Over the last few months I having been doing heaps of research on
getting australian approvals for the x100p and the e400p.
Early in the my investigations it was obvious that the x100p could
never get australian approvals unless it was totally redesigned inboard
layout and the motorola chip was no longer in production, so an
alternative was required, that I found and then the task of actually
locating something ALREADY with Australian approvals whcih would do the
job.

Just be aware that from fresh Australian approvals would cost anywhere
from $10,000 plus board design etc...

Today by chance I found a key piece of information which with Digium's
assistance I just might be able to get aproval for the e400p, a bit
more research it going to be required though.

BUT, for an x100p equivalent, approximately one hour ago I think I
actually found what I was looking for. tomorrow I hope to confirm what
I found and actually buy a unit for testing. If it does work as
expected, I will resell it here in Australia ONLY, I have no intention
to compete with Digium as Asterisk development is very important to me
and a project I am embarking on so I need digium to survive and if
their hardware sales help them etc.... Its only due to legal reasons I
have even considered an alternative source for boards. I intend to put
the profit from any of these sales towards getting the other Digium
boards approved or bought up to the standard required for approval, as
I only need a relative small quantity myself, the advantages to the
australian asterisk users and digium is definately there.

For those Aussie's reading this, please DO NOT expect me to reply to
your questions on this yet, but you can indicate possible sales and
give me details for later....

Gary

On Thu, 22 May 2003 10:12:43 -0500, Steven Critchfield wrote:

>First the reason why voice modems won't get you whre you want to be has
>been covered many times in the archives for users like yourself. Most of
>them that happen to have linux drivers are not cheap because they are
>have the DSP in hardware and these also only do half duplex audio. Fine
>for an answering machine, but misses the mark fro PBX or VoIP fun. The
>ones that don't have a DSP on board are usually little more than a
>little hardware glue and a soundcard. These rarely have drivers under
>linux because it would require them to distribute the code for the DSP
>that does V.90, X2, V.34, MNP and all the other patented and costly
>handshaking protocols. So in this second class of hardware they also
>don't usually distribute specs to make them work either. 
>
>At some point it might be nice to see the AMR based modems working since
>it is exactly some glue to put the signaling out of band, and the audio
>down to the MB and then passes it to a AC97 sound card built into the
>MB. Genereic, and everyone with a semi new motherbard has one already,
>they only will have to track down the adapter for their area.
>
>Reasons why the X100P should be bought. For the most part, it isn't much
>if any different from a higher end winmodem with the exception of it
>doesn't have windows drivers. It already has been tested, and works with
>linux. It has totally open source drivers that can be modified. It works
>with asterisk now and won't require you spending weeks making a proper
>channel driver.
>
>And most of all, consider it your first bribe to Mark to make a change
>to asterisk the way you want it to be. Without paying Mark, he does
>things on his own time schedule. So if you don't feel like you can
>contibute in any other way, this is a very good way to start. Pep rally
>over.  
>
>On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 09:46, Dan wrote:
>> Nope.. just one line (for my home), but what has a X100P card more than a
>> voice modem in terms of hardware?
>> I think it is a big difference between X100P and LineJack (in price too).
>> LineJack has the audio codecs includec in hardware. About X100P I know
>> allmost nothing.
>> The specification on the web page is so thin that it appears like a device
>> who does.... nothing in the hardware.
>> I am missing something?
>> Why to pay 99 USD (plus a lot for transport) and not to use a local USB
>> voice modem which is just 20USD?. Just because they are no drivers available
>> for Asterisk?
>> 
>> If someone knows more about X100P I kindly ask him to send me that
>> information too.
>> I really need a good FXO interface (one port only) and supported by
>> Asterisk.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "WipeOut ." <wipeout at linuxmail.org>
>> To: <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] fxo cards
>> 
>> 
>> > If you only want 1 line going into * then you best bet is a X100P card at
>> $99.. It will make your life much easier when it comes to the setup.. I
>> though you wanted multiple lines..
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > > A voice modem is not really an option..
>> > >
>> > > Why? I don't want to get an ISDN connection at home only for that.
>> > > I have a broadband connection at home (cable)... so no need for me to
>> have
>> > > an ISDN line too...
>> > > There is any other reason not to use a PCI or USB voice modem as a FXO
>> > > interface?
>> > > It can be a lot cheaper option for home use.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Dan
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "WipeOut ." <wipeout at linuxmail.org>
>> > > To: <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:02 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] fxo cards
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > A voice modem is not really an option..
>> > > >
>> > > > I am going to attempt to use a passive BRI ISDN card and see what the
>> > > performance is like.. Later I will try and add another BRI card so that
>> I
>> > > have 4 channels..
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > A voice modem (PCI or USB) can be an option?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BR,
>> > > > > Dan
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "WipeOut ." <wipeout at linuxmail.org>
>> > > > > To: <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 1:24 PM
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] fxo cards
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Sounds like you have the same need I do.. and many others I am
>> sure..
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The only option seems to be the Diva Server ISDN cards but they
>> are
>> > > very
>> > > > > expensive.. So it actually works out cheaper to get a E1 or T1 card
>> and
>> > > the
>> > > > > line installed than buying the 4 port Diva server card (In the UK
>> > > anyway)..
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Later..
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi all,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Is there any alternative hardware components for multi port FXO
>> > > cards,
>> > > > > other
>> > > > > > > than Single and E1 or T1 level? For example 4 or 8 port FXO card
>> is
>> > > > > ideal.
>> > > > > > > Also the price matters.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > > > >
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