[Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?

[Jeremy McNamara]

Our phones have been working perfectly fine all day.  I've personally 
supported quite a few new users over the phone today and even set a 
couple up.


Jeremy McNamara




Steve Lane wrote:

>Nufone won't answer their phones. I am very interested in finding out
>pricing from them as Jeremy stated they are very good with their rates.
>
>Steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Adam Roach
>Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:23 AM
>To: 'asterisk-users at lists.digium.com'
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
>
>I think Jeff Pulver (pulver.com) was trying to do this
>with his Free World Dialup program at one point. Haven't
>been paying that much attention, though. You might
>poke around http://www.pulver.com/ to see if there's
>something there that interests you.
>
>/a
>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dan Austin [mailto:Dan_Austin at Phoenix.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 22:07
>>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
>>
>>
>>This idea has been floating around in my head.  I don't think the
>>needed 'critical mass' has been reached, but I suspect at some
>>point a co-op style arrangement could be reached.
>>
>>disclaimer:
>>	I have played with *, and am deploying Cisco Call Manager.
>>I don't see any technical reason why the following would not work,
>>but it is open for abuse, so there may be enough socio-political
>>reasons to not even try.
>>
>>Ingredients:
>>	1.  A * server
>>	2.  A friend with an * server in another city/state/country
>>	3.  A way to locate like minded individuals/orginizations
>>	4.  Moderately over-built local PSTN connectivity
>>
>>	Mix it together with a gentlemans agreement, or strongly
>>worded contract.  Co-ordinate or advertise local number ranges.
>>
>>
>>Problems:
>>	People looking to save ~$30 per line won't be thrilled to
>>order T1(s) to share with the co-op.
>>	Keeping a structured dial-plan to provide for reasonable
>>overlap without massive meltdowns.
>>	There are many businesses springing up to fill this void,
>>and they will be better suited to manage and grow the infrastructure.
>>	
>>I've watched the discussions about IAX/SIP service providers, and
>>most seem to be geared exclusively to the single user/line household.
>>I know a number of small businesses that would jump to a VoIP carrier
>>that allowed concurrent calls, heck my family has one.  And I suspect
>>that a number of the smaller/newer VoIP carriers might be entertaining
>>partnerships with their competitors whose footprint compliments their
>>own.
>>
>>Oh, and let's not forget that the traditional carriers are 
>>not ignorant
>>of what is happening with VoIP or customer interest.  There 
>>is no doubt
>>that they are aware that if they don't find a way to deliver 
>>this service,
>>someone else will.
>>
>>Dan (who, if he had a decent PSTN connected * box, would be 
>>willing to share)
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mike Ciholas [mailto:mikec at ciholas.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:42 PM
>>To: Ernest W. Lessenger
>>Cc: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Ernest W. Lessenger wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>At 04:48 PM 8/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Now, if that is possible, how does the VoIP dial tone provider
>>>>get my inbound local and toll calls?  I would want my "local"
>>>>phone number to work, of course.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>You would need to redirect your local number to them. This
>>>ALWAYS assumes that the VoIP provider has a switch in your
>>>local CO or an agreement with someone who does. Vonage and
>>>Voicepulse, for example, do not have a presence in my area. I
>>>intend to maintain several POTS lines for incoming calls, and
>>>use a VoIP provider for all outgoing calls.
>>>      
>>>
>>Oh well.  I'm would expect no one would have presence here.  
>>This sounds so suboptimal, you have to provision *two* systems,
>>one for inbound (local CO) and one for outbound (VoIP provider).  
>>Of course, the outbound can be just your internet connection, but 
>>this still seems annoying because most of the money is in the 
>>local CO service.
>>
>>Hmm, perhaps *all* incoming calls can be toll free?  I would
>>maintain the one local CO POTS line for 911 out bound, and then
>>only use my toll free number for inbound.  For the money I would
>>save on local CO lines I can buy a *lot* of toll free minutes!  
>>Then the VoIP dial tone provider can route my toll free number to
>>me over the internet.  Presumably, then, there is no real limit
>>on the number of "lines" coming in.  It isn't hard coded like the
>>CO lines are.
>>
>>This all seems pretty fanciful at the moment...
>>
>>-- 
>>Mike Ciholas                            (812) 476-2721 voice
>>CIHOLAS Enterprises                     (812) 476-2881 fax
>>2626 Kotter Ave, Unit D                 mikec at ciholas.com
>>Evansville, IN 47715                    http://www.ciholas.com
>>
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