[Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?

[Brian West]

NUFONE R0X!

Took him 30 seconds or so to set me up when I got services with him! :P

bkw

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Jeremy McNamara wrote:

> Our phones have been working perfectly fine all day.  I've personally
> supported quite a few new users over the phone today and even set a
> couple up.
>
>
> Jeremy McNamara
>
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>
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> Steve Lane wrote:
>
> >Nufone won't answer their phones. I am very interested in finding out
> >pricing from them as Jeremy stated they are very good with their rates.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
> >[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Adam Roach
> >Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:23 AM
> >To: 'asterisk-users at lists.digium.com'
> >Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
> >
> >I think Jeff Pulver (pulver.com) was trying to do this
> >with his Free World Dialup program at one point. Haven't
> >been paying that much attention, though. You might
> >poke around http://www.pulver.com/ to see if there's
> >something there that interests you.
> >
> >/a
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Dan Austin [mailto:Dan_Austin at Phoenix.com]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 22:07
> >>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> >>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
> >>
> >>
> >>This idea has been floating around in my head.  I don't think the
> >>needed 'critical mass' has been reached, but I suspect at some
> >>point a co-op style arrangement could be reached.
> >>
> >>disclaimer:
> >>	I have played with *, and am deploying Cisco Call Manager.
> >>I don't see any technical reason why the following would not work,
> >>but it is open for abuse, so there may be enough socio-political
> >>reasons to not even try.
> >>
> >>Ingredients:
> >>	1.  A * server
> >>	2.  A friend with an * server in another city/state/country
> >>	3.  A way to locate like minded individuals/orginizations
> >>	4.  Moderately over-built local PSTN connectivity
> >>
> >>	Mix it together with a gentlemans agreement, or strongly
> >>worded contract.  Co-ordinate or advertise local number ranges.
> >>
> >>
> >>Problems:
> >>	People looking to save ~$30 per line won't be thrilled to
> >>order T1(s) to share with the co-op.
> >>	Keeping a structured dial-plan to provide for reasonable
> >>overlap without massive meltdowns.
> >>	There are many businesses springing up to fill this void,
> >>and they will be better suited to manage and grow the infrastructure.
> >>
> >>I've watched the discussions about IAX/SIP service providers, and
> >>most seem to be geared exclusively to the single user/line household.
> >>I know a number of small businesses that would jump to a VoIP carrier
> >>that allowed concurrent calls, heck my family has one.  And I suspect
> >>that a number of the smaller/newer VoIP carriers might be entertaining
> >>partnerships with their competitors whose footprint compliments their
> >>own.
> >>
> >>Oh, and let's not forget that the traditional carriers are
> >>not ignorant
> >>of what is happening with VoIP or customer interest.  There
> >>is no doubt
> >>that they are aware that if they don't find a way to deliver
> >>this service,
> >>someone else will.
> >>
> >>Dan (who, if he had a decent PSTN connected * box, would be
> >>willing to share)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Mike Ciholas [mailto:mikec at ciholas.com]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:42 PM
> >>To: Ernest W. Lessenger
> >>Cc: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> >>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Ernest W. Lessenger wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>At 04:48 PM 8/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Now, if that is possible, how does the VoIP dial tone provider
> >>>>get my inbound local and toll calls?  I would want my "local"
> >>>>phone number to work, of course.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>You would need to redirect your local number to them. This
> >>>ALWAYS assumes that the VoIP provider has a switch in your
> >>>local CO or an agreement with someone who does. Vonage and
> >>>Voicepulse, for example, do not have a presence in my area. I
> >>>intend to maintain several POTS lines for incoming calls, and
> >>>use a VoIP provider for all outgoing calls.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Oh well.  I'm would expect no one would have presence here.
> >>This sounds so suboptimal, you have to provision *two* systems,
> >>one for inbound (local CO) and one for outbound (VoIP provider).
> >>Of course, the outbound can be just your internet connection, but
> >>this still seems annoying because most of the money is in the
> >>local CO service.
> >>
> >>Hmm, perhaps *all* incoming calls can be toll free?  I would
> >>maintain the one local CO POTS line for 911 out bound, and then
> >>only use my toll free number for inbound.  For the money I would
> >>save on local CO lines I can buy a *lot* of toll free minutes!
> >>Then the VoIP dial tone provider can route my toll free number to
> >>me over the internet.  Presumably, then, there is no real limit
> >>on the number of "lines" coming in.  It isn't hard coded like the
> >>CO lines are.
> >>
> >>This all seems pretty fanciful at the moment...
> >>
> >>--
> >>Mike Ciholas                            (812) 476-2721 voice
> >>CIHOLAS Enterprises                     (812) 476-2881 fax
> >>2626 Kotter Ave, Unit D                 mikec at ciholas.com
> >>Evansville, IN 47715                    http://www.ciholas.com
> >>
> >>
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