[Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?

[Brian West]

Steve,
	I pay 2.9 cents a min inbound 800  and outbound.  Email
sales at nufone.net  I think he is being overloaded with requests for
information.  It takes him all over 30 seconds to set someone up.

bkw

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Steve Lane wrote:

> Nufone won't answer their phones. I am very interested in finding out
> pricing from them as Jeremy stated they are very good with their rates.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Adam Roach
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:23 AM
> To: 'asterisk-users at lists.digium.com'
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
>
> I think Jeff Pulver (pulver.com) was trying to do this
> with his Free World Dialup program at one point. Haven't
> been paying that much attention, though. You might
> poke around http://www.pulver.com/ to see if there's
> something there that interests you.
>
> /a
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Austin [mailto:Dan_Austin at Phoenix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 22:07
> > To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
> >
> >
> > This idea has been floating around in my head.  I don't think the
> > needed 'critical mass' has been reached, but I suspect at some
> > point a co-op style arrangement could be reached.
> >
> > disclaimer:
> > 	I have played with *, and am deploying Cisco Call Manager.
> > I don't see any technical reason why the following would not work,
> > but it is open for abuse, so there may be enough socio-political
> > reasons to not even try.
> >
> > Ingredients:
> > 	1.  A * server
> > 	2.  A friend with an * server in another city/state/country
> > 	3.  A way to locate like minded individuals/orginizations
> > 	4.  Moderately over-built local PSTN connectivity
> >
> > 	Mix it together with a gentlemans agreement, or strongly
> > worded contract.  Co-ordinate or advertise local number ranges.
> >
> >
> > Problems:
> > 	People looking to save ~$30 per line won't be thrilled to
> > order T1(s) to share with the co-op.
> > 	Keeping a structured dial-plan to provide for reasonable
> > overlap without massive meltdowns.
> > 	There are many businesses springing up to fill this void,
> > and they will be better suited to manage and grow the infrastructure.
> >
> > I've watched the discussions about IAX/SIP service providers, and
> > most seem to be geared exclusively to the single user/line household.
> > I know a number of small businesses that would jump to a VoIP carrier
> > that allowed concurrent calls, heck my family has one.  And I suspect
> > that a number of the smaller/newer VoIP carriers might be entertaining
> > partnerships with their competitors whose footprint compliments their
> > own.
> >
> > Oh, and let's not forget that the traditional carriers are
> > not ignorant
> > of what is happening with VoIP or customer interest.  There
> > is no doubt
> > that they are aware that if they don't find a way to deliver
> > this service,
> > someone else will.
> >
> > Dan (who, if he had a decent PSTN connected * box, would be
> > willing to share)
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Ciholas [mailto:mikec at ciholas.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:42 PM
> > To: Ernest W. Lessenger
> > Cc: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP dialtone?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Ernest W. Lessenger wrote:
> >
> > > At 04:48 PM 8/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Now, if that is possible, how does the VoIP dial tone provider
> > > >get my inbound local and toll calls?  I would want my "local"
> > > >phone number to work, of course.
> > >
> > > You would need to redirect your local number to them. This
> > > ALWAYS assumes that the VoIP provider has a switch in your
> > > local CO or an agreement with someone who does. Vonage and
> > > Voicepulse, for example, do not have a presence in my area. I
> > > intend to maintain several POTS lines for incoming calls, and
> > > use a VoIP provider for all outgoing calls.
> >
> > Oh well.  I'm would expect no one would have presence here.
> > This sounds so suboptimal, you have to provision *two* systems,
> > one for inbound (local CO) and one for outbound (VoIP provider).
> > Of course, the outbound can be just your internet connection, but
> > this still seems annoying because most of the money is in the
> > local CO service.
> >
> > Hmm, perhaps *all* incoming calls can be toll free?  I would
> > maintain the one local CO POTS line for 911 out bound, and then
> > only use my toll free number for inbound.  For the money I would
> > save on local CO lines I can buy a *lot* of toll free minutes!
> > Then the VoIP dial tone provider can route my toll free number to
> > me over the internet.  Presumably, then, there is no real limit
> > on the number of "lines" coming in.  It isn't hard coded like the
> > CO lines are.
> >
> > This all seems pretty fanciful at the moment...
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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