[asterisk-gui] asterisk-gui install]

Ming Yong voiceroutelist at gmail.com
Fri Apr 20 16:33:19 MST 2007 

Brandon,
I apologize for the mixup in names.
Too much caffeine
Sorry.
Ming
>
> I wanted to clarify to Gary that your statement of no commercial 
> asterisk gui that supports ABE is not true. Druid standalone supports 
> version 1 to 1.4 & we have been in GUI since June 2005 (we did not 
> start around the same time as digium's AsteriskNow GUI late 2006?).
>
> The power of the asterisk community is diversity of support & 
> applications. I hope Bruce understands that there is more than just 
> Digium's GUI in the community & asterisk's popularity is because of 
> diversity & not monopoly
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+GUI
> Many users come to the Druid platform using asterisk 1.4 too. In our 
> distribution for asterisk 1.4, we never at any point took out the 
> option for people from choosing AsteriskGUI. We give them a choice to 
> try both & make an informed decision themselves.
>
> Going back to technical =>
> Druid is actually written in PHP + JSON framework. In fact since Druid 
> v1 Dec 2005, we have rewritten it at least 3-4 times over. Now it runs 
> with pretty light load.
> In fact, we have an embedded Druid edition that will be running on an 
> embedded PBX appliance vdex box (launch in june 2006) that has 250mhz 
> Risc processor 128MB ram + 1GB Flash. You can easily load Druid with 
> 30 sessions without exceeding 70% utilization on the box.
> For those we are interested in knowing more about vdex box 
> (http://www.technoco.biz)
> http://digg.com/hardware/TechnoCo_and_Voiceroute_Announce_Embedded_Open_Source_Asteriskt_PBX/who 
>
>
> Regarding the whole debate about client side being better than say 
> running PHP on apache. There is really no right or wrong here. The 
> cons of AsteriskGUI is that you miss out on all the power & ajax 
> related modules that comes with PHP. Those modules just keeps getting 
> richer & better.
> The rich look and feel of many GUIs like Druid autoprovision of IP 
> phone page
> http://demo.voiceroute.net/druid
> user: admin
> passwd: rx4819
> See Users > Add Extension Wizard.
> On the plus side of AsteriskGui, theoretically the load should be 
> lower than say someone who runs apache. However, the trick is in the 
> details. You can use lighttpd PHP & json to achieve almost the same 
> load as that of AsteriskGUI without losing all the power of PHP
>
> Just my 2 sense bruce
> Ming
>>
>> Please no advertising, however, the reason the GUI doesnt work in
>> BE is because asterisk doesnt have its built in http server in 1.2.
>>
>> The difference between your gui and ours is that ours is native to 
>> asterisk and all the code is clientside ( javascript ) which puts nearly
>> no load on the system.
>>
>>
>> -brandon
>>
>>
>> Ming Yong wrote:
>>> Bruce & Gary,
>>> Actually. Druid standalone edition is a commercial GUI that works 
>>> with Asterisk Business Edition.
>>> http://www.voiceroute.net/site/index.php?p=druid
>>> We have designed Druid to work with basically any vanilla asterisk 
>>> config files & directory structure.
>>>
>>> We have over 20+ customer who have used Asterisk Business Edition
>>> http://www.voiceroute.net/site/index.php?p=customer.
>>> Gary - i will be more than happy to run you through the install 
>>> process for ABE myself.
>>> Please email me at ming at voiceroute.net
>>>
>>> Ming
>>>>
>>>> No problem on the quick response. I totally understand where
>>>> your coming from. I have to edit configuration files from the command
>>>> line with VI, thats just how I work and comprehend. However, currently
>>>> there is no gui thats works with BE, simply because BE is 1.2 based,
>>>> and the GUI framework was layed out in the beginnings of 1.4 asterisk.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, BE will have a/the asterisk GUI in time, and it will be 
>>>> extremely stable and supported in your contract, but now, it is
>>>> just 1.2 based, which does not have any of the GUI framework, so 
>>>> simply
>>>> installing the gui will not work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For more information you can shoot an email to sales at digium.com. I am
>>>> not 100% positive on what I can and cannot discuss, but the 
>>>> revamped Business Edition is going to be awesome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -brandon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary Luckritz wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Brandon,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the incredibly quick response. One last question 
>>>>> then - what
>>>>> (if anything) is available (commercial or otherwise) for a gui 
>>>>> that will
>>>>> work with business edition? Nothing I have come across has 
>>>>> mentioned that it
>>>>> would work specifically with BE. I'm a linux admin (believe it or 
>>>>> not!) and
>>>>> comfortable with vi for editing the files, but others that will 
>>>>> need to
>>>>> cover from time to time are from a Windows-only world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary Luckritz
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: bkruse [mailto:bkruse at digium.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 
>>>>> 2007 4:41 PM
>>>>> To: gary.luckritz at acclaris.com; Asterisk GUI project discussion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-gui] asterisk-gui install
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not try this.
>>>>>
>>>>> you CANNOT run the gui with business edition its very close to 
>>>>> impossible,
>>>>> as close as you can get.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -brandon
>>>>>
>>>>> Email me if you need any help, or if you have a real copy of business
>>>>> edition, you do have support there ready for you all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -bkruse
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary Luckritz wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I'm an absolute newcomer to the whole Asterisk PBX world and have 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> trying to get asterisk-gui installed and running to make the initial
>>>>>> configuration a bit more manageable. We have Asterisk Business 
>>>>>> Edition
>>>>>> ABE-B.1-3. I'm also new to the subversion way of downloading things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I am seeing is exactly as described in issue 8951
>>>>>> (http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8951), however, nothing I've 
>>>>>> done has
>>>>>> changed anything. I've tried re-installing no less than 5 times 
>>>>>> and always
>>>>>> with the same result. I've tried different revisions including 
>>>>>> 311 as
>>>>>> mentioned in the issue above.
>>>>>> I've also noticed when viewing the source for a couple of the 
>>>>>> pages it
>>>>>> refers to "../../rawman" and "asterisk_rawmanPath". I see that as
>>>>>>     
>>>>> referring
>>>>>  
>>>>>> to a file named rawman which I should find in the config 
>>>>>> directory, yet I
>>>>>> can find nothing named rawman on the system. Is that what's 
>>>>>> keeping this
>>>>>> from working and if so, where do I get it? I can't find anything 
>>>>>> about it
>>>>>> doing a web search either.
>>>>>> Thanks for any help you can give me with this.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Gary Luckritz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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