[asterisk-gui] asterisk-gui install]

Fri Apr 20 16:20:51 MST 2007

Bruce,
I wanted to clarify to Gary that your statement of no commercial 
asterisk gui that supports ABE is not true. Druid standalone supports 
version 1 to 1.4 & we have been in GUI since June 2005 (we did not start 
around the same time as digium's AsteriskNow GUI late 2006?).

The power of the asterisk community is diversity of support & 
applications. I hope Bruce understands that there is more than just 
Digium's GUI in the community & asterisk's popularity is because of 
diversity & not monopoly
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+GUI
Many users come to the Druid platform using asterisk 1.4 too. In our 
distribution for asterisk 1.4, we never at any point took out the option 
for people from choosing AsteriskGUI. We give them a choice to try both 
& make an informed decision themselves.

Going back to technical =>
Druid is actually written in PHP + JSON framework. In fact since Druid 
v1 Dec 2005, we have rewritten it at least 3-4 times over. Now it runs 
with pretty light load.
In fact, we have an embedded Druid edition that will be running on an 
embedded PBX appliance vdex box (launch in june 2006) that has 250mhz 
Risc processor 128MB ram + 1GB Flash. You can easily load Druid with 30 
sessions without exceeding 70% utilization on the box.
For those we are interested in knowing more about vdex box 
(http://www.technoco.biz)
http://digg.com/hardware/TechnoCo_and_Voiceroute_Announce_Embedded_Open_Source_Asteriskt_PBX/who

Regarding the whole debate about client side being better than say 
running PHP on apache. There is really no right or wrong here. The cons 
of AsteriskGUI is that you miss out on all the power & ajax related 
modules that comes with PHP. Those modules just keeps getting richer & 
better.
The rich look and feel of many GUIs like Druid autoprovision of IP phone 
page
http://demo.voiceroute.net/druid
user: admin
passwd: rx4819
See Users > Add Extension Wizard.
On the plus side of AsteriskGui, theoretically the load should be lower 
than say someone who runs apache. However, the trick is in the details. 
You can use lighttpd PHP & json to achieve almost the same load as that 
of AsteriskGUI without losing all the power of PHP

Just my 2 sense bruce
Ming
>
> Please no advertising, however, the reason the GUI doesnt work in
> BE is because asterisk doesnt have its built in http server in 1.2.
>
> The difference between your gui and ours is that ours is native to 
> asterisk and all the code is clientside ( javascript ) which puts nearly
> no load on the system.
>
>
> -brandon
>
>
> Ming Yong wrote:
>> Bruce & Gary,
>> Actually. Druid standalone edition is a commercial GUI that works 
>> with Asterisk Business Edition.
>> http://www.voiceroute.net/site/index.php?p=druid
>> We have designed Druid to work with basically any vanilla asterisk 
>> config files & directory structure.
>>
>> We have over 20+ customer who have used Asterisk Business Edition
>> http://www.voiceroute.net/site/index.php?p=customer.
>> Gary - i will be more than happy to run you through the install 
>> process for ABE myself.
>> Please email me at ming at voiceroute.net
>>
>> Ming
>>>
>>> No problem on the quick response. I totally understand where
>>> your coming from. I have to edit configuration files from the command
>>> line with VI, thats just how I work and comprehend. However, currently
>>> there is no gui thats works with BE, simply because BE is 1.2 based,
>>> and the GUI framework was layed out in the beginnings of 1.4 asterisk.
>>>
>>> Of course, BE will have a/the asterisk GUI in time, and it will be 
>>> extremely stable and supported in your contract, but now, it is
>>> just 1.2 based, which does not have any of the GUI framework, so simply
>>> installing the gui will not work.
>>>
>>>
>>> For more information you can shoot an email to sales at digium.com. I am
>>> not 100% positive on what I can and cannot discuss, but the revamped 
>>> Business Edition is going to be awesome.
>>>
>>>
>>> -brandon
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary Luckritz wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Brandon,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the incredibly quick response. One last question then 
>>>> - what
>>>> (if anything) is available (commercial or otherwise) for a gui that 
>>>> will
>>>> work with business edition? Nothing I have come across has 
>>>> mentioned that it
>>>> would work specifically with BE. I'm a linux admin (believe it or 
>>>> not!) and
>>>> comfortable with vi for editing the files, but others that will 
>>>> need to
>>>> cover from time to time are from a Windows-only world.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Gary Luckritz
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: bkruse [mailto:bkruse at digium.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 
>>>> 2007 4:41 PM
>>>> To: gary.luckritz at acclaris.com; Asterisk GUI project discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-gui] asterisk-gui install
>>>>
>>>> Please do not try this.
>>>>
>>>> you CANNOT run the gui with business edition its very close to 
>>>> impossible,
>>>> as close as you can get.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -brandon
>>>>
>>>> Email me if you need any help, or if you have a real copy of business
>>>> edition, you do have support there ready for you all the time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -bkruse
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary Luckritz wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> I'm an absolute newcomer to the whole Asterisk PBX world and have 
>>>>> been
>>>>> trying to get asterisk-gui installed and running to make the initial
>>>>> configuration a bit more manageable. We have Asterisk Business 
>>>>> Edition
>>>>> ABE-B.1-3. I'm also new to the subversion way of downloading things.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I am seeing is exactly as described in issue 8951
>>>>> (http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8951), however, nothing I've 
>>>>> done has
>>>>> changed anything. I've tried re-installing no less than 5 times 
>>>>> and always
>>>>> with the same result. I've tried different revisions including 311 as
>>>>> mentioned in the issue above.
>>>>> I've also noticed when viewing the source for a couple of the 
>>>>> pages it
>>>>> refers to "../../rawman" and "asterisk_rawmanPath". I see that as
>>>>>     
>>>> referring
>>>>  
>>>>> to a file named rawman which I should find in the config 
>>>>> directory, yet I
>>>>> can find nothing named rawman on the system. Is that what's 
>>>>> keeping this
>>>>> from working and if so, where do I get it? I can't find anything 
>>>>> about it
>>>>> doing a web search either.
>>>>> Thanks for any help you can give me with this.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Gary Luckritz
>>>>>
>>>>>
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