[asterisk-dev] Mailing List Future

[Joshua C. Colp]

The mailing lists have remained unchanged since deployed.

For self hosting they would need to be completely redone on fresh
infrastructure, fresh distro, fresh software, and hopefully things would
possibly import. They'd also need to be updated to conform to current
standards on sending so that that they don't appear as spam as often. (For
me 25% of emails from the lists go to my spam currently and require manual
involvement)

For hosted we'd need support for over 2500+ subscribers for the -dev list
if it were to be imported. For commercial entities we could possibly
import, but for something like someone doing that work and effort and
hosting I would not be comfortable providing such information, and people
would need to sign up fresh again. It would also not be something I would
be willing to spend money on due to the low use of the lists.

Past that - can you explain why it's a bad idea? I've looked at the
interactions for the past few years and while some have existed, they've
been minimal over all.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 8:28 AM Jaco Kroon <jaco at uls.co.za> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My 5c.  Killing the dev list is a bad idea.
>
> Most developers could not care about having to poll forums.  It also means
> that stuff that would previously get an audience will now get none.
>
> github discussions are better than forums at least.
>
> May I inquire as to the problem you're having with the ML?  Perhaps I
> might be able to assist ...
>
> Kind regards,
> Jaco
>
> On 2023/12/04 14:00, Joshua C. Colp wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> Over the past few years, the use of the Asterisk mailing lists has
> diminished, with far more conversation happening on the Asterisk community
> forums[1]. The state of email, to ensure reliable delivery, has also gotten
> more complicated - emails get caught by spam filters, etc.. To continue the
> mailing lists would require a huge time and resource investment, for
> minimal use.
>
> To that end, we’ve decided to discontinue the mailing lists effective
> February 1st, 2024.
>
> This means the following:
>
> 1. Sending and receiving mailing list emails will no longer be possible.
> 2. The list archives, however, will remain available.
>
> We need to decide the future of the asterisk-dev mailing list;
> specifically, where to hold discussions in the future. There are a few
> options:
>
> 1. A “Development” category exists on https://community.asterisk.org/
> already that can be used.
> 2. We can use GitHub discussions, which keeps things with the GitHub
> project.
> 3. We can use a hosted mailing list elsewhere.
>
> We suggest option #2, since it keeps things with the GitHub project, which
> is where everything development-related happens now regardless. This has
> been set up and enabled already.
>
> If you have any input, now is the time to state it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Joshua C. Colp
> Asterisk Project Lead
> Sangoma Technologies
> Check us out at www.sangoma.com and www.asterisk.org
>
>

-- 
Joshua C. Colp
Asterisk Project Lead
Sangoma Technologies
Check us out at www.sangoma.com and www.asterisk.org
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