[asterisk-dev] Asterisk 1.6 Realtime Database must use ', ' not '|'

Steve Totaro stotaro at totarotechnologies.com
Fri May 23 12:16:01 CDT 2008

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Lee Howard <faxguy at howardsilvan.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:33:03AM -0500, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
>>>> This is an open source ecosystem.  If you have a problem with one of these
>>>> advancements, then it's incumbent upon you to point it out, and, if the change
>>>> is seen to be justified by the developers, then you can either propose
>>>> alternate code or accept what was changed.  Remember, meritocracy, not
>>>> democracy.  The quality of the code that you contribute is what has the vote,
>>>> not how big of a bully pulpit you can manage.
>> Yeah, this kind of comment, along with the philosophy behind it, is
>> counter-productive (i.e. it's toxic) to software development.
>> Users' opinions should be heard, accepted, and valued without
>> necessarily being followed-up by code patches from the user.
>> In software development (and I don't care whether it's closed or open
>> source) there are users and there are developers.  Developers must rely
>> on and respect feedback from users or the pride of the developers sours
>> the soup and directs the development in a direction that is not in
>> harmony with the user base.
>> It doesn't need to be democratic... in fact it shouldn't be... but
>> neither should it be a meritocracy.  You've got to come together and
>> agree on something that makes you both happy, and if you can't, then
>> you're at an impasse and the developer is only going to damage the
>> relationship with the user... hindering further feedback and fouling the
>> atmosphere.
>> If you're so quick to throw down the gauntlet and say "this is open
>> source", as if the availability of the source code had any relevancy to
>> the merit of a user's feedback, then you're poisoning the community with
>> that veiled challenge to do it themselves (i.e. fork).  If you really
>> valued the best interests of the software development you'd knock it off.
>> Thanks,
>> Lee.
> Time for John Todd to step up to his new role.  Maybe keep Mr. Lesher in check.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=600ScEjNt2k
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro

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community outside of the Digium staff, to understand the issues and
work towards harmonizing (or at least listen to) the various opinions
on code issues and roadmap concepts, and to function as an interface
between Digium and the large group of coders who appreciate and
contribute to Asterisk.  The work that Digium does on Asterisk is of
great value to the community (and almost inversely, Asterisk is of
great value to Digium) but Digium is only a portion of the equation -
we (Digium) need to work to continue to integrate the code
contributed by the community, the concepts brought to us by users,
and to resolve the problems that may arise with the rapidly changing
areas of complexity in which Asterisk is now proving to be essential
to the telephony applications market.  There is much still to be
done!  Digium can only provide a portion of the effort - it's up to
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