[asterisk-dev] Asterisk 1.6 Realtime Database must use ', ' not '|'

Donny Kavanagh donnyk at gmail.com
Fri May 23 12:25:43 CDT 2008

This is getting downright abusive, and is totally uncalled for, this
is not a list for personal attacks.


On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Lee Howard <faxguy at howardsilvan.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:33:03AM -0500, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
>>>> This is an open source ecosystem.  If you have a problem with one of these
>>>> advancements, then it's incumbent upon you to point it out, and, if the change
>>>> is seen to be justified by the developers, then you can either propose
>>>> alternate code or accept what was changed.  Remember, meritocracy, not
>>>> democracy.  The quality of the code that you contribute is what has the vote,
>>>> not how big of a bully pulpit you can manage.
>> Yeah, this kind of comment, along with the philosophy behind it, is
>> counter-productive (i.e. it's toxic) to software development.
>> Users' opinions should be heard, accepted, and valued without
>> necessarily being followed-up by code patches from the user.
>> In software development (and I don't care whether it's closed or open
>> source) there are users and there are developers.  Developers must rely
>> on and respect feedback from users or the pride of the developers sours
>> the soup and directs the development in a direction that is not in
>> harmony with the user base.
>> It doesn't need to be democratic... in fact it shouldn't be... but
>> neither should it be a meritocracy.  You've got to come together and
>> agree on something that makes you both happy, and if you can't, then
>> you're at an impasse and the developer is only going to damage the
>> relationship with the user... hindering further feedback and fouling the
>> atmosphere.
>> If you're so quick to throw down the gauntlet and say "this is open
>> source", as if the availability of the source code had any relevancy to
>> the merit of a user's feedback, then you're poisoning the community with
>> that veiled challenge to do it themselves (i.e. fork).  If you really
>> valued the best interests of the software development you'd knock it off.
>> Thanks,
>> Lee.
> Time for John Todd to step up to his new role.  Maybe keep Mr. Lesher in check.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=600ScEjNt2k
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
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