[asterisk-dev] Asterisk 1.6 Realtime Database must use ', ' not '|'

Steve Totaro stotaro at totarotechnologies.com
Fri May 23 12:07:41 CDT 2008

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Lee Howard <faxguy at howardsilvan.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:33:03AM -0500, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
>>> This is an open source ecosystem.  If you have a problem with one of these
>>> advancements, then it's incumbent upon you to point it out, and, if the change
>>> is seen to be justified by the developers, then you can either propose
>>> alternate code or accept what was changed.  Remember, meritocracy, not
>>> democracy.  The quality of the code that you contribute is what has the vote,
>>> not how big of a bully pulpit you can manage.
> Yeah, this kind of comment, along with the philosophy behind it, is
> counter-productive (i.e. it's toxic) to software development.
> Users' opinions should be heard, accepted, and valued without
> necessarily being followed-up by code patches from the user.
> In software development (and I don't care whether it's closed or open
> source) there are users and there are developers.  Developers must rely
> on and respect feedback from users or the pride of the developers sours
> the soup and directs the development in a direction that is not in
> harmony with the user base.
> It doesn't need to be democratic... in fact it shouldn't be... but
> neither should it be a meritocracy.  You've got to come together and
> agree on something that makes you both happy, and if you can't, then
> you're at an impasse and the developer is only going to damage the
> relationship with the user... hindering further feedback and fouling the
> atmosphere.
> If you're so quick to throw down the gauntlet and say "this is open
> source", as if the availability of the source code had any relevancy to
> the merit of a user's feedback, then you're poisoning the community with
> that veiled challenge to do it themselves (i.e. fork).  If you really
> valued the best interests of the software development you'd knock it off.
> Thanks,
> Lee.

Time for John Todd to step up to his new role.  Maybe keep Mr. Lesher in check.


Steve Totaro

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