[Asterisk-Dev] Asterisk Credits and Fair use. Mark Pls Respond.

[Richard Lyman]

dking at pimpsoft.com wrote:

>Why is it that ever time I turn around, no ones name is on anything 
>but Marks, EVEN if I know for a fact he did not do the work in 
>question?
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>Why does it look like to me that Mark simply takes credit for work he 
>did not do, taking others names off there work?
>
>Why is it I know for a fact that several things in asterisk are not 
>done by mark, but have his name on it?
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>This way of doing things is not true open source idealistic. Taking 
>someones name off of something to put your own name on it is 
>unethical and immoral. It also can be seen as illegal.
>
>Large open source software projects usually have a credits file 
>listing everyone who helped out. Instead asterisk source code all has 
>'copyright Mark Spencer' and the only names in the 'credits' files 
>are little adds for companies that helped Mark get it off the ground 
>and members of the 'inner circle'.
>
>What about the rest of us? What about the community that did the 
>work?
>
>So I am asking digum/Mark/whoever: So why is it happening? Why has it 
>been allowed?
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>I'm not asking for a long multi threaded discussion where everybody 
>gets pissed off and angry at the whistle-blower (me). I just want to 
>know why Mark you say you are a part of the open source community, 
>yet you disrespect it and every single person who has helped with 
>your actions by plagiarizing or in the minds of some of the people I 
>have talked to, stolen, work. 
>
>Hell you have added work by ME without giving credits, and I have 
>talked to many others, some who even had code added without having to 
>sign disclaimers (and that's a interesting topic for later) who all 
>say the same thing. They feel that Mark simply takes credit for 
>everyone else's work, and doesn't even credit the people who do the 
>work.
>
>So I want to know why Mark. I'm not calling you out. I'm not blaming 
>you for something other people I have told me you did. I'm not asking 
>about the code you have included in asterisk without having signed 
>disclaimers. I'm not asking about code you have included in asterisk 
>that may be the ownership of other people.
>
>I AM asking why you have done this, and why code I know either to 
>have been done by others or myself is written off as your work. I AM 
>asking why you do not count the numerous other people who have 
>submitted patches or helped in the development of asterisk in the 
>credits file. I AM asking you why you say in most if not all the 
>files you say ‘copyright Mark Spencer’ when so many others including 
>myself have put valuable time and effort into them. I am asking you 
>why you have taken out names from credits in source code in what 
>looks to me like so the true ownership to them is not traceable.
>
>So instead of calling you out, I'm asking you WHY.
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>disclaimer:  i don't follow bugs like i used too, nor am i with digium.
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i'm not referring to the stuff you say no disclaimer is signed, either.

but, the mods i've seen by those that PUT info in the mod/app/etc 
claiming rights. or claiming 'by'... remained
myself, i've never added 'by me', /* initals */, copyright 
this/that/other, etc so, as far as anything i've done... mark/digium you 
have at it, just as stated on the disclaimers i've signed.

btw: to mark, digium, all the other contributors.... thank you again! 
wonderful product <G>