[Asterisk-Dev] UK Caller ID patch and new CVS

[Dr. Rich Murphey]

Perhaps it's not a question of elegant code but rather quality and
maintainability.  Once code goes in, those are real issues that take time
and effort.

I've seen technical integrity mistaken for dictatorship many times, and in
the end the users suffer if it is replaced by political solutions.  Believe
me, you would be far worse off if such decisions were in the hands of a
populist rather than an software architect.

As an open source project one has every opportunity to change the code, but
in submitting code, one must be able to take responsibility for long term
issues.

Please guys, focus on improving patches rather than asking the maintainers
to lower standards.

Regards,
Rich



> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-dev-admin at lists.digium.com 
> [mailto:asterisk-dev-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of 
> dking at pimpsoft.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 4:50 PM
> To: asterisk-dev at lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Dev] UK Caller ID patch and new CVS
> 
> Yes I have.
> 
> The main problem I have is that if a patch can make things 
> working in the short terms then why not add it? If a more 
> elegant solution is found weeks later that patch can simply 
> be taken out, either way the problem is solved,and  people 
> are happy since the software 'just works' while digium gains 
> a larger customer base since the hardware now works as 
> expected and more people can then buy the hardware and use it.
> 
> I'm not even in the UK so that patch will not even help me at 
> all, but I still think it a good idea; That has to say something.
> 
> 
> On 22 Jul 2004 at 11:51, Richard Lyman wrote:
> 
> > it's obvious you never attempted to get a patch in the linux 
> > kernel source!  someone HAS to 'govern' the code, else it's just 
> > a pile of spagetti.
> > 
> > dking at pimpsoft.com wrote:
> > 
> > > The true nature of open source is defined as the source 
> being available and open. Limiting the included code for the 
> central offering based on someone's will because he thinks it 
> will mean he can sell more hardware if he does not do so is 
> not open source, its dictatorship. I find it very sad that 
> based on my understanding asterisk will not include code that 
> will help many people just because one person feels that to 
> do so would hurt his companies profit margins, when the code 
> is no doubt already available 
> > > somewhere else or is needed by someone.
> > > 
> > > In the time I have watched this list even before I 
> started posting I have seen much of this; Keep up the 
> dictatorship of the central code repository and I guarantee 
> you a branch of the source code will form within the next 3-6 
> months. Not by me since I do not have the requisite 
> understanding, but I believe it important to say here that if 
> the open source community does not like the way digium or 
> 'Mark' is doing things it will simply make them unnecessary 
> for the project to go forward by cutting them out of 
> the 
> > > loop. And that perfectly acceptable from a legal 
> standpoint since asterisk is after all GPL.
> > > 
> > > I don't mean to be cruel or annoying, I'm stating facts 
> as I see them. If I am wrong or ignorant by all means tell 
> me, but if it looks like this to me, how do you think it 
> looks to the thousands of other people ghosting around this 
> project and watching in the shadows as I once did?
> > > 
> > > Just a though.
> > > 
> > > On 22 Jul 2004 at 14:43, Chris Stenton wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>Mark does not like the history buffer method  used. I 
> think code will be
> > >>included for the the fxo module at some point but not for 
> the X100P.
> > >>
> > >>Chris.
> > >>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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