[asterisk-biz] UK Mobile Needed

[David Knell]

>> >> I have heard reports of people getting cheaper interconnects with the 
>> >> big
>> >> 4 mobile networks by using so-called "grey routes" (e.g. bouncing the
>> >> calls out to the Netherlands or the USA and back into the UK).
>> Err.. with respect:
>> > That's called tromboning and to get sensible rates means you're 
>> > probably
>> > breaking the law.
>> No, you're not.
>
> You are if you change CLI so you're not coming form a UK number, but the
> call is originated out of the UK.

Which law?  And what if I just obliterated the CLI all together?

>> > It only works because BT offer blended UK rates (covering both fixed 
>> > and
>> > mobile rates i..e they charge slightly more for fixed, but less for
>> > mobile at a single rate) and it used to be possible for UK companies to
>> > bounces the calls through a foreign network (who got BT's blended
>> > rates), but now BT will charge standard UK rates if the calls originate
>> > from a UK number (even if appearing from a non-UK operator). If you
>> > change your CLI to a non-UK number, you're breaking the law - though
>> > it's possible to do.
>> None of this is true.
>
> Whay do you say that? Having worked for a telco who used to trombone
> while it was still possible to do so - it was certainly true.

Interconnect rates for certain numbers differ(ed) substantially depending
on whether calls were originated internationally or not - k-rate numbers 
carry
roughly double the interconnect rate for domestically originated calls as 
for
international ones, and the same may well have been true for mobile calls.
Now, though, international and domestically originated calls to mobiles 
carry
pretty much the same interconnect rate, so there's no benefit to be gained 
by
tromboning them through a country overseas.

--Dave