[asterisk-biz] UK Mobile Needed

Steve Kennedy steve-asterisk at gbnet.net
Wed Apr 28 10:39:04 CDT 2010


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 04:31:12PM +0100, David Knell wrote:

> >> We're also a VoIP provider in the UK, and from what I recall, 6p/min is 
> >> very close to the *wholesale* termination rate for fairly sizeable 
> >> volumes.
> >> I have heard reports of people getting cheaper interconnects with the big 
> >> 4 mobile networks by using so-called "grey routes" (e.g. bouncing the 
> >> calls out to the Netherlands or the USA and back into the UK).
> Err.. with respect:
> > That's called tromboning and to get sensible rates means you're probably
> > breaking the law.
> No, you're not.

You are if you change CLI so you're not coming form a UK number, but the
call is originated out of the UK.

> > It only works because BT offer blended UK rates (covering both fixed and
> > mobile rates i..e they charge slightly more for fixed, but less for
> > mobile at a single rate) and it used to be possible for UK companies to
> > bounces the calls through a foreign network (who got BT's blended
> > rates), but now BT will charge standard UK rates if the calls originate
> > from a UK number (even if appearing from a non-UK operator). If you
> > change your CLI to a non-UK number, you're breaking the law - though
> > it's possible to do.
> None of this is true.

Whay do you say that? Having worked for a telco who used to trombone
while it was still possible to do so - it was certainly true.

Steve

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