[asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination - FRAUD- BE Careful

Telpoint info at telpoint.co.uk
Mon Nov 2 13:53:41 CST 2009


Hi Denis,

Advice: 1. Ask for Bank Guarantee for substantial amount 2. See if they
can offer terms to you , if not then be guided by that old adage - "You
see yourself in shaving mirror".

Directors of the companies can be pursued personally under civil as well
as penal code for wrongful trading.

Best wishes,

Mohammed


> <html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000;
> font-size:10pt;"><div>Hi Andy and Everyone in this Forum,</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>Of course Andy we are very Angry. Last Year in total we lost over 30K
> USD and Asia Telecom and BroadTelephone 3K USD invoice &nbsp;is part of
> it. This has effect our business process to do much more
> verification&nbsp;in giving post pay/prepay and it has become almost
> impossible find out who is geniune&nbsp;and who is not.</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>Even though These two companies are registered in UK and USA its
> managed and owned by Pakistan&nbsp;guys (nothing personal to
> Pakistanies)&nbsp;so my point is we can not judge a company from where it
> is registered.</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>&nbsp;So I bilieve most effective way to minimize frauds&nbsp;is to
> keep close contact with trusted partners and their frauds, so you can keep
> away from frauds.</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>Thanks,</div>
> <div>Dennis S.</div>
> <div>DialOnTel Team&nbsp;</div>
> <div><A href="http://www.dialontel"></A>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
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> <div   >-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz]
> India VoIP termination - FRAUD- BE Careful<BR>From: Andy Spring
> &lt;andyspr at gmail.com&gt;<BR>Date: Sun, November 01, 2009 5:15 am<BR>To:
> Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
> Discussion<BR>&lt;asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com&gt;<BR><BR><img
> style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15
> src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail" width=12  wbeuser="info at dialontel.com"
> goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle"
> mce_src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex;
> VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail" width=12
> wbeuser="info at dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex;
> VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail"><img
> style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15
> src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail" width=12  wbeuser="info at dialontel.com"
> goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle"
> mce_src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail">&nbsp;Haha... Maybe Dennis is very angry
> with them, but what make me suprised is that the frauds are from UK and
> USA, whose reputation are good and they also think themselves come with
> good reputation, but also rubbish <img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex;
> VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail" width=12
> wbeuser="info at dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex;
> VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail"><img
> style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15
> src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail" width=12  wbeuser="info at dialontel.com"
> goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle"
> mce_src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex;
> VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail" width=12
> wbeuser="info at dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex;
> VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360 at goomoji.gmail"><BR><BR>
> <DIV class=gmail_quote>2009/10/31 <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A
> href="mailto:info at dialontel.com" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:info at dialontel.com">info at dialontel.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
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> mce_style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">
> <DIV>Hi All,</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>DO NOT sell any minutes to BroadTelepone or AsiaTelecom. They have a
> pending invoice to us for last 8 months 3000 USD. Our company name is
> DialOnTel.&nbsp; we were seling India to them. These companies&nbsp;are
> fraud based in UK and USA. AsiaTelecom UK is currently on
> liquadation.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Sikander - Director, Faruk -Tech guy never response to our calls or
> emails.&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>DO NOT Give post pay to them.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>My name is Dennis from DialOnTel.</DIV>
> <DIV><A href="mailto:dennis at dialontel.com" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:dennis at dialontel.com">dennis at dialontel.com</A></DIV>
> <DIV><A href="mailto:info at dialontel.com" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:info at dialontel.com">info at dialontel.com</A></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Sikander if you see this email you are most welcome to contact me as
> you never response to our emials or calls.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
> <DIV>DialOnTel Team</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> <DIV>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz]
> India VoIP termination<BR>From: Sikander Saeed &lt;<A
> href="mailto:sikander at asiatele.net" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:sikander at asiatele.net">sikander at asiatele.net</A>&gt;<BR>Date:
> Fri, October 30, 2009 4:04 pm<BR>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented
> Asterisk Discussion<BR>&lt;<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com"
> target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com</A>&gt;<BR><BR>BroadTelephone
> is based in USA and involve in wholesale and retail VoIP services in USA,
> Canada and UK since last decade. We are looking for quality route to
> India. Our targets are:<BR><BR>India 919 mobile $0.0110<BR>India
> 9194&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> $0.0125<BR>India ROC&nbsp; 91&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $0.0150<BR>India
> Cities&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> $0.0130<BR><BR>Our daily traffic is about 25,000 minutes per day. Please
> let us know if you can provide such service.<BR><BR>Sikander
> Saeed<BR>BroadTelephone, Inc.<BR><A href="http://www.broadtelephone.com/"
> target=_blank
> mce_href="http://www.broadtelephone.com/">www.broadtelephone.com</A><BR><BR><BR>Mitul
> Limbani wrote:
> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue
> 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px;
> BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><PRE>Brian,
>
> So if I m correct this would be a one of retail customer who needs to
> call their indian partner company?
>
> Please email me in a bit more detail off the list, coz we have helped
> several US based companies optimize their communication cost to their
> indian counter part or indian offshore units.
>
> And I think we can help your customer too.
>
> Thanks &amp; Regards,
> Mitul Limbani,
> Founder &amp; CEO,
> Enterux Solutions Pvt. Ltd.,
> The Enterprise Linux Company (r),
> <a href="http://www.enterux.com/" target=_blank
> mce_href="http://www.enterux.com/">http://www.enterux.com</a>
> <a href="http://www.entvoice.com/" target=_blank
> mce_href="http://www.entvoice.com/">http://www.entVoice.com</a>
>
> On 27-Oct-2009, at 7:30 AM, "Brian Franklin" <A
> href="mailto:bfranklin at ntginc.net" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:bfranklin at ntginc.net">&lt;bfranklin at ntginc.net&gt;</A>
> wrote:
>
>   </PRE>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue
> 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px;
> BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><PRE>I have an executive that needs low cost
> minutes to a partner firm in
> India.  Clear calls and low cost is the primary concern.
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <A href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com</A>
> [<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com</a>]
> On Behalf Of mtlvoip
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:48 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] USA to India
>
>
> with what kind of features and in which level of price are your
> looking
>
> for?
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Brian Franklin" <A href="mailto:bfranklin at ntginc.net" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:bfranklin at ntginc.net">&lt;bfranklin at ntginc.net&gt;</A>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:32 PM
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <A href="mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com" target=_blank
> mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com">&lt;asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com&gt;</A>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] USA to India
>
>     </PRE>
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> 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px;
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> termination...particularly to
> India.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
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