[asterisk-biz] Small business question from developing nation

Ignacio Ramos ignacio.ramos at codevoz.com
Wed May 21 10:05:39 CDT 2008


Xorcom seems like a very nice product, we purchased one for testing,
however it has a NAT problem, related to the kernel, according to my
contact in Xorcom.

Anyone from Xorcom here?



2008/5/20 Mitul Limbani <mitul at enterux.com>:
> Hi Mudy,
>
> Please read my response below,
>
>> I'm from developing nation somewhere beyond pacific, where IP solution is
>> still rare and the market is quite small (for you guys). We're selling /
>> renting PABX solution for buildings. I'm trying to switch the business into
>> full IP solution.
>>
>> Asterisk Digium is a sound solution. However, in our calculation the price
>> of IP phone makes total price higher. I've tried to calculate using analog
>> converter and cheap phone but still doesnt look so good (calculation below).
>> Using converter seems not a right solution. Most lowend customer choose
>> cheaper used PABX while highend choose new PABX with fancy digital phone and
>> some (limited) IP capabilities.
>>
>> My question, (to make it easier) which is better solution:
>>
>> a. I should look for cheaper IP phone that is compatible with Digium (do you
>> have any clue where I can find such phone?)
>>
>> b. I should try to develop local implementation of Asterisk (we have some
>> low cost local engineer, but would it difficult and cost much more?)
>>
>> c. I should look for existing asterisk implementation other than Digium that
>> is cheaper (perhaps from India or China?)
>>
>> d. Other.... ?
>
> There can be several arguement about the associated costs.
>
> But here is what my findings are from India.
>
> PAP2T is still cheaper since cost per port is below US$25 (but you have
> to bear cost of 100Mbps switches)
>
> The next option that comes to my mind is the Xorcom AstriBank's in
> which cost per port is roughly US$45-50 (and here you can directly
> punch in the RJ11 phones as Zap FXS extension in asterisk)
>
> And the last potential option is to go in with Low cost IP Phones, yes
> there are good amount of IP Phones available in china who cost around
> US$28 - US$65 FOB China, so you gotta calculate your import duty cost
> etc, but another problem with them is, if you ordered 1000 units you
> would get that price, but if in future you want the same phone, that
> company might have vanished in thin air and/or would have stopped
> making those IP Phones and/or they have zero support provided on the
> phone.
>
> More over, IP Phones might increase your wiring cost (coz RJ45 cables
> are costly then RJ11 per meter in developing nations) and the
> consultants who punch RJ45 are also costly then normal electrician who
> punch RJ11
>
> and this is the reason why I see Xorcom AstriBank might be a clear
> winner in developing nations especially for high density installations.
>
> If you want further details / consultation, feel free to email me off
> the list,
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Mitul Limbani,
> Founder & CEO,
> Enterux Solutions,
> The Enterprise Linux Company (TM),
> www.enterux.com
>
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