[asterisk-biz] Unlimited DID

[Jai Rangi]

Issues like? Can you please give an example?  Definitely we would like to
work around all those issues.

-Jai


On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Joe Antkowiak <jantkowiak at netigent.net>wrote:

> just because you don't deal with the pstn directly, doesn't mean you won't
> have
> issues with the pstn.
>
> Jai Rangi wrote:
> > Trixter,
> > Thank you for your comments,
> > We are not dealing with PSTN on our side, we are true VoIP.
> > Re: Bandwidth, we have upto 100mb. Yes we WILL NOT be doing any media on
> our
> > network which is real bandwidth killer.  Re: cpu and and other limits we
> > have built our system on horizontal scalable architecture, fully
> redundant
> > and load balanced system, that includes firewall, SIP router, Asterisk
> > servers, Database servers etc.
> >
> > During our crash test, my server was sleeping until 2500 channels. So I
> am
> > not really worried upto 5000 channels and from there I can easily expand
> my
> > capacity. Our target is to do the expansion as soon as we reach the
> 40-50%
> > utilization of the resources. For companies who has more that 200
> channels
> > on each DID I think it will be worth for them to deal directly with
> Lavel3,
> > XO, Quest or Verizon directly.
> >
> > Yes, I agree that every unlimited has a limit in terms of capacity and
> > resources and we are not exception. But I am positive that we can be good
> > resource for small to mid size businesses.
> >
> > -Jai
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <
> > trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:47 -0700, Jai Rangi wrote:
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> I want to take community opinion on this.
> >>> Would there be enough interest if I can offer Unlimited channels, non
> >>> metered DID at $8-$11 (Depending on the volume commitment) per month.
> >>> Target is to sell atleast 10000 DIDs in one to 2 months of time
> >>> frame.
> >>>
> >>> Any comment would be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> -Jai
> >>>
> >> I think people would like it, but there would be some apprehension about
> >> it.  The pstn carrier has a finite amount of channels available for that
> >> exchange.  You only have so much bandwidth, even if you never touched
> >> the media the provider only has so much bandwidth.  Then there is the
> >> CDR processing, route processing, etc - cpu resources are finite,
> >> although you can add more just like you can add more pstn and inet
> >> capacity.
> >>
> >> So would $8-11 cover all of those costs and allow you to really do
> >> unlimited service?  What if someone ran some application that generated
> >> hundreds of thousands of calls?  Or even a few that just did hundreds?
> >>
> >> Granted if you did 10k DIDs at $8 that is $80k/mo.  And lets say that
> >> 10% did above average traffic of say 150 average channels, that is still
> >> 15,000 channels that would have to be maintained give or take (I really
> >> am just pulling numbers out of thin air).  You would certainly be able
> >> to afford the cpu and bandwidth costs, which will require more than
> >> 1Gbps (I always discount bandwidth both because of atm padding and
> >> because you never want it 100%), but the carrier may not be able to
> >> handle that channel load, and some of the call centers I have seen
> >> traffic on, 150 channels is low, some do thousands at a time, which
> >> would skew that slightly (even though its an average over the top 10%
> >> users).
> >>
> >> In general from what I have seen, most "unlimited" plans have some type
> >> of limit burried somewhere in their user agreement/tos, this is because
> >> capacity is finite and they do not want to go overboard with capacity
> >> and lose money.  On a slight tangent, I just wish that carriers who
> >> didnt offer real unlimited would stop advertising it as such, * or not
> >> to indicate some obscure definition of "unlimited"...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com     Bret McDanel
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> >>
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