[asterisk-biz] Unlimited DID

[Joe Antkowiak]

just because you don't deal with the pstn directly, doesn't mean you won't have 
issues with the pstn.

Jai Rangi wrote:
> Trixter,
> Thank you for your comments,
> We are not dealing with PSTN on our side, we are true VoIP.
> Re: Bandwidth, we have upto 100mb. Yes we WILL NOT be doing any media on our
> network which is real bandwidth killer.  Re: cpu and and other limits we
> have built our system on horizontal scalable architecture, fully redundant
> and load balanced system, that includes firewall, SIP router, Asterisk
> servers, Database servers etc.
> 
> During our crash test, my server was sleeping until 2500 channels. So I am
> not really worried upto 5000 channels and from there I can easily expand my
> capacity. Our target is to do the expansion as soon as we reach the 40-50%
> utilization of the resources. For companies who has more that 200 channels
> on each DID I think it will be worth for them to deal directly with Lavel3,
> XO, Quest or Verizon directly.
> 
> Yes, I agree that every unlimited has a limit in terms of capacity and
> resources and we are not exception. But I am positive that we can be good
> resource for small to mid size businesses.
> 
> -Jai
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <
> trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:47 -0700, Jai Rangi wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I want to take community opinion on this.
>>> Would there be enough interest if I can offer Unlimited channels, non
>>> metered DID at $8-$11 (Depending on the volume commitment) per month.
>>> Target is to sell atleast 10000 DIDs in one to 2 months of time
>>> frame.
>>>
>>> Any comment would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> -Jai
>>>
>> I think people would like it, but there would be some apprehension about
>> it.  The pstn carrier has a finite amount of channels available for that
>> exchange.  You only have so much bandwidth, even if you never touched
>> the media the provider only has so much bandwidth.  Then there is the
>> CDR processing, route processing, etc - cpu resources are finite,
>> although you can add more just like you can add more pstn and inet
>> capacity.
>>
>> So would $8-11 cover all of those costs and allow you to really do
>> unlimited service?  What if someone ran some application that generated
>> hundreds of thousands of calls?  Or even a few that just did hundreds?
>>
>> Granted if you did 10k DIDs at $8 that is $80k/mo.  And lets say that
>> 10% did above average traffic of say 150 average channels, that is still
>> 15,000 channels that would have to be maintained give or take (I really
>> am just pulling numbers out of thin air).  You would certainly be able
>> to afford the cpu and bandwidth costs, which will require more than
>> 1Gbps (I always discount bandwidth both because of atm padding and
>> because you never want it 100%), but the carrier may not be able to
>> handle that channel load, and some of the call centers I have seen
>> traffic on, 150 channels is low, some do thousands at a time, which
>> would skew that slightly (even though its an average over the top 10%
>> users).
>>
>> In general from what I have seen, most "unlimited" plans have some type
>> of limit burried somewhere in their user agreement/tos, this is because
>> capacity is finite and they do not want to go overboard with capacity
>> and lose money.  On a slight tangent, I just wish that carriers who
>> didnt offer real unlimited would stop advertising it as such, * or not
>> to indicate some obscure definition of "unlimited"...
>>
>> --
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