[asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??

[Jared Geiger]

Just too throw another wrench in the mix. Aastra makes most of Nortel's IP
phones. They just load a UNISTEM protocal firmware on the phone instead of
SIP.

On 10/10/07, Tim Booth <tbooth at visioncom.us> wrote:
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> well shadowym, your ignorance really blows me away..Ever heard of
> Goggle. Like a I said LG manufactures telecom equipment for many
> systems, Vodavi and Nortel are a couple of them. Hey you learned
> something new today!
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> http://www.lg-nortel.com/
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> shadowym wrote:
> > So LG makes Nortel phones, Nortel network core products and Nortel PBX's
> and
> > therefore Vodavi=LG=Nortel???
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> > Maybe you should take your own advice and do more research before flying
> off
> > the handle because someone disagrees with you.
> >
> > So I guess we can all scratch off visioncom.us as a professional
> company.
> > "Dumb ass"?  Classy argument!
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us]
> > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:00 AM
> > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
> >
> > Do some homework their dumb ass before you start bashing me for my
> > comments. Like I said I sell both Asterisk and key systems, and yes I
> > have Vodavi systems installed that have not been touched for over 5
> > years with the exception of program changes. Yes, Asterisk is nice but
> > certainly does not have the rock solid reliability of most key systems.
> > As far as price it's called the power of manufacturing. LG manufactures
> > the entire Vodavi line, they also make products for several other major
> > manufactures.
> > The next time you pick up a Nortel product look at the label, its says
> > LG/Nortel on it for a reason. Again do some home work before you open
> > you mouth and more stupid comments flows to your keyboard.
> >
> > shadowym wrote:
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> >> So in those 30 years have they managed to find magic fair dust that
> allows
> >> them to make a phone system for next to nothing equivalent in quality
> to
> >> Asterisk/Cisco etc.?
> >>
> >> Perhaps the phrase "you get what you pay for" does not apply to them
> and
> >> their magical ways?
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us]
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:08 PM
> >> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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> >> oooh...what was I thinking, Vodavi has only been around for 30 years.
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> >> shadowym wrote:
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> >>> At $300 I'm sure you will get exactly what you pay for.  Let me
> re-phrase
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> >> my
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> >>> subject to "Good quality KSU killer"
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> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us]
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:38 PM
> >>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
> >>>
> >>> Its not a KSU killer in the small end market. A good example is the
> >>> Vodavi STSe key system, basic KSU is 4 CO lines with CID daughter
> board
> >>> + 2 SLT ports and 8 Digital extensions for $298 bucks. In skin Voice
> >>> mail $599 and 24 button digital speaker phones $115 each.
> >>> Do the math it's less than an Asterisk server, just doesn't have all
> the
> >>> other bells and whistles. Most small business don't use those other
> >>> bells and whistles anyway.
> >>> I sell both Asterisk solutions and key system, the key systems are not
> >>> going are not going away anytime soon.
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> >>>
> >>> shadowym wrote:
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> >>>> That sort of comment is totally uncalled for IMHO!  It was obviously
> >>>>
> > done
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> >>>> out of emotion.  Otherwise you would present some sort of valid
> argument
> >>>> such as links/white papers/case studies of successful
> implementations.
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> > I
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> >>>> would like to see evidence of just as much as anyone but my initial
> >>>> excitement over it has waned.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Henry L.Coleman [mailto:asterisk at voip-pbx.ca]
> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:27 AM
> >>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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> >>>> Shadowym...You must have led a sheltered life.
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