[asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??

Wed Oct 10 11:57:55 CDT 2007

My intent here was just to give and example of high quality low cost 
KSU's still on the market. Low cost because they are manufactured by 
giants like LG then re-branded by companies like Vodavi, there is no 
magic fairly dust as mentioned . Lets face it Asterisk does not work for 
everyone and you should still have a fall back ksu in your inventory to 
sell to a potential client instead of losing that business to a competitor.

Jared Geiger wrote:
> Just too throw another wrench in the mix. Aastra makes most of 
> Nortel's IP phones. They just load a UNISTEM protocal firmware on the 
> phone instead of SIP.
>
> On 10/10/07, * Tim Booth* <tbooth at visioncom.us 
> <mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us>> wrote:
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>     well shadowym, your ignorance really blows me away..Ever heard of
>     Goggle. Like a I said LG manufactures telecom equipment for many
>     systems, Vodavi and Nortel are a couple of them. Hey you learned
>     something new today!
>
>     http://www.lg-nortel.com/
>
>     shadowym wrote:
>     > So LG makes Nortel phones, Nortel network core products and
>     Nortel PBX's and
>     > therefore Vodavi=LG=Nortel???
>     >
>     > Maybe you should take your own advice and do more research
>     before flying off
>     > the handle because someone disagrees with you.
>     >
>     > So I guess we can all scratch off visioncom.us
>     <http://visioncom.us> as a professional company.
>     > "Dumb ass"?  Classy argument!
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us
>     <mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us>]
>     > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:00 AM
>     > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>     > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
>     >
>     > Do some homework their dumb ass before you start bashing me for my
>     > comments. Like I said I sell both Asterisk and key systems, and
>     yes I
>     > have Vodavi systems installed that have not been touched for over 5
>     > years with the exception of program changes. Yes, Asterisk is
>     nice but
>     > certainly does not have the rock solid reliability of most key
>     systems.
>     > As far as price it's called the power of manufacturing. LG
>     manufactures
>     > the entire Vodavi line, they also make products for several
>     other major
>     > manufactures.
>     > The next time you pick up a Nortel product look at the label,
>     its says
>     > LG/Nortel on it for a reason. Again do some home work before you
>     open
>     > you mouth and more stupid comments flows to your keyboard.
>     >
>     > shadowym wrote:
>     >
>     >> So in those 30 years have they managed to find magic fair dust
>     that allows
>     >> them to make a phone system for next to nothing equivalent in
>     quality to
>     >> Asterisk/Cisco etc.?
>     >>
>     >> Perhaps the phrase "you get what you pay for" does not apply to
>     them and
>     >> their magical ways?
>     >>
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: Tim Booth [mailto: tbooth at visioncom.us
>     <mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us>]
>     >> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:08 PM
>     >> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>     >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
>     >>
>     >> oooh...what was I thinking, Vodavi has only been around for 30
>     years.
>     >>
>     >> shadowym wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>> At $300 I'm sure you will get exactly what you pay for.  Let
>     me re-phrase
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >> my
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>> subject to "Good quality KSU killer"
>     >>>
>     >>> -----Original Message-----
>     >>> From: Tim Booth [mailto: tbooth at visioncom.us
>     <mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us>]
>     >>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:38 PM
>     >>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>     >>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
>     >>>
>     >>> Its not a KSU killer in the small end market. A good example
>     is the
>     >>> Vodavi STSe key system, basic KSU is 4 CO lines with CID
>     daughter board
>     >>> + 2 SLT ports and 8 Digital extensions for $298 bucks. In skin
>     Voice
>     >>> mail $599 and 24 button digital speaker phones $115 each.
>     >>> Do the math it's less than an Asterisk server, just doesn't
>     have all the
>     >>> other bells and whistles. Most small business don't use those
>     other
>     >>> bells and whistles anyway.
>     >>> I sell both Asterisk solutions and key system, the key systems
>     are not
>     >>> going are not going away anytime soon.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> shadowym wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>> That sort of comment is totally uncalled for IMHO!  It was
>     obviously
>     >>>>
>     > done
>     >
>     >>>> out of emotion.  Otherwise you would present some sort of
>     valid argument
>     >>>> such as links/white papers/case studies of successful
>     implementations.
>     >>>>
>     > I
>     >
>     >>>> would like to see evidence of just as much as anyone but my
>     initial
>     >>>> excitement over it has waned.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> -----Original Message-----
>     >>>> From: Henry L.Coleman [mailto:asterisk at voip-pbx.ca
>     <mailto:asterisk at voip-pbx.ca>]
>     >>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:27 AM
>     >>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>     >>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Shadowym...You must have led a sheltered life.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
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