[asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??

[Tim Booth]

well shadowym, your ignorance really blows me away..Ever heard of 
Goggle. Like a I said LG manufactures telecom equipment for many 
systems, Vodavi and Nortel are a couple of them. Hey you learned 
something new today!

http://www.lg-nortel.com/

shadowym wrote:
> So LG makes Nortel phones, Nortel network core products and Nortel PBX's and
> therefore Vodavi=LG=Nortel???
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> Maybe you should take your own advice and do more research before flying off
> the handle because someone disagrees with you.
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> So I guess we can all scratch off visioncom.us as a professional company.
> "Dumb ass"?  Classy argument!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us] 
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:00 AM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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> Do some homework their dumb ass before you start bashing me for my 
> comments. Like I said I sell both Asterisk and key systems, and yes I 
> have Vodavi systems installed that have not been touched for over 5 
> years with the exception of program changes. Yes, Asterisk is nice but 
> certainly does not have the rock solid reliability of most key systems.  
> As far as price it's called the power of manufacturing. LG manufactures 
> the entire Vodavi line, they also make products for several other major 
> manufactures.
> The next time you pick up a Nortel product look at the label, its says 
> LG/Nortel on it for a reason. Again do some home work before you open 
> you mouth and more stupid comments flows to your keyboard.
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> shadowym wrote:
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>> So in those 30 years have they managed to find magic fair dust that allows
>> them to make a phone system for next to nothing equivalent in quality to
>> Asterisk/Cisco etc.?
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>> Perhaps the phrase "you get what you pay for" does not apply to them and
>> their magical ways?
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us] 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:08 PM
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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>> oooh...what was I thinking, Vodavi has only been around for 30 years.
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>> shadowym wrote:
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>>> At $300 I'm sure you will get exactly what you pay for.  Let me re-phrase
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>>> subject to "Good quality KSU killer"
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us] 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:38 PM
>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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>>> Its not a KSU killer in the small end market. A good example is the 
>>> Vodavi STSe key system, basic KSU is 4 CO lines with CID daughter board 
>>> + 2 SLT ports and 8 Digital extensions for $298 bucks. In skin Voice 
>>> mail $599 and 24 button digital speaker phones $115 each.
>>> Do the math it's less than an Asterisk server, just doesn't have all the 
>>> other bells and whistles. Most small business don't use those other 
>>> bells and whistles anyway.
>>> I sell both Asterisk solutions and key system, the key systems are not 
>>> going are not going away anytime soon.
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>>> shadowym wrote:
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>>>> That sort of comment is totally uncalled for IMHO!  It was obviously
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>>>> such as links/white papers/case studies of successful implementations.
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>>>> would like to see evidence of just as much as anyone but my initial
>>>> excitement over it has waned.
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Henry L.Coleman [mailto:asterisk at voip-pbx.ca] 
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:27 AM
>>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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>>>> Shadowym...You must have led a sheltered life.
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