[asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??

[shadowym]

So LG makes Nortel phones, Nortel network core products and Nortel PBX's and
therefore Vodavi=LG=Nortel???

Maybe you should take your own advice and do more research before flying off
the handle because someone disagrees with you.

So I guess we can all scratch off visioncom.us as a professional company.
"Dumb ass"?  Classy argument!

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us] 
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:00 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??

Do some homework their dumb ass before you start bashing me for my 
comments. Like I said I sell both Asterisk and key systems, and yes I 
have Vodavi systems installed that have not been touched for over 5 
years with the exception of program changes. Yes, Asterisk is nice but 
certainly does not have the rock solid reliability of most key systems.  
As far as price it's called the power of manufacturing. LG manufactures 
the entire Vodavi line, they also make products for several other major 
manufactures.
The next time you pick up a Nortel product look at the label, its says 
LG/Nortel on it for a reason. Again do some home work before you open 
you mouth and more stupid comments flows to your keyboard.

shadowym wrote:
> So in those 30 years have they managed to find magic fair dust that allows
> them to make a phone system for next to nothing equivalent in quality to
> Asterisk/Cisco etc.?
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> Perhaps the phrase "you get what you pay for" does not apply to them and
> their magical ways?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:08 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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> oooh...what was I thinking, Vodavi has only been around for 30 years.
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> shadowym wrote:
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>> At $300 I'm sure you will get exactly what you pay for.  Let me re-phrase
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>> subject to "Good quality KSU killer"
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Booth [mailto:tbooth at visioncom.us] 
>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:38 PM
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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>> Its not a KSU killer in the small end market. A good example is the 
>> Vodavi STSe key system, basic KSU is 4 CO lines with CID daughter board 
>> + 2 SLT ports and 8 Digital extensions for $298 bucks. In skin Voice 
>> mail $599 and 24 button digital speaker phones $115 each.
>> Do the math it's less than an Asterisk server, just doesn't have all the 
>> other bells and whistles. Most small business don't use those other 
>> bells and whistles anyway.
>> I sell both Asterisk solutions and key system, the key systems are not 
>> going are not going away anytime soon.
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>> shadowym wrote:
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>>> That sort of comment is totally uncalled for IMHO!  It was obviously
done
>>> out of emotion.  Otherwise you would present some sort of valid argument
>>> such as links/white papers/case studies of successful implementations.
I
>>> would like to see evidence of just as much as anyone but my initial
>>> excitement over it has waned.
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Henry L.Coleman [mailto:asterisk at voip-pbx.ca] 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:27 AM
>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
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>>> Shadowym...You must have led a sheltered life.
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