AW: AW: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available

[Paul]

You could do that. How is compliance achieved for the binaries that were
already distributed? They can't be recalled so I guess the vendor has to
make those versions open source in order to comply with LPGL.

Peter Bowyer wrote:

> No comment from the vendor.... I guess my next course of action is to
> report a violation of the LGPL to the copyright owner of iaxclient?
>
> Peter
>
> On 10/03/07, Peter Bowyer <peter at bowyer.org> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps Roland could clarify this. The product certainly does include
>> Qt and iaxclient. I received a copy of the yakaphone source code,
>> which came with no license information at all. Hard to work out what
>> my rights and obligations are.
>>
>> Since the binary distribution, which is a single Windows executable,
>> incorporates iaxclient, I believe it should comply with section 6 of
>> the LGPL.
>>
>> I think the moral here is that just saying something is Open Source
>> doesn't make it so. If you're going to build on other peoples' Open
>> Source efforts, you need to respect the license, and probably get your
>> own license written by someone who understands the subject area.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 10/03/07, Zoa <zoachien at securax.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just to be clear, it is not a problem that its not open source
>> compliant
>> > (we don't even supply sources to our softphone), he only has to
>> release
>> > iaxclient in LGPL to be ok.
>> > (Although if they are using Qt and are using a free version, it's a
>> > violation of the Qt license).
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Zoa.
>> >
>> > Zoa wrote:
>> > > I would say: the source is available, but its not open source.
>> > >
>> > > From http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php :
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >      6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
>> > >
>> > > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the
>> program in
>> > > a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the
>> > > program from being used in a business, or from being used for
>> genetic
>> > > research.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >      3. Derived Works
>> > >
>> > > The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must
>> allow
>> > > them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the
>> > > original software.
>> > >
>> > >    /*Rationale:* The mere ability to read source isn't enough to
>> > >    support independent peer review and rapid evolutionary selection.
>> > >    For rapid evolution to happen, people need to be able to
>> experiment
>> > >    with and redistribute modifications.
>> > >    /
>> > >
>> > >    /
>> > >    /
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Roland Ndaka Fru wrote:
>> > >> ...You can't change it for COMMERCIAL use without permission...
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > >> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> > >> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von Zoa
>> > >> Gesendet: 10 March 2007 15:43
>> > >> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> > >> Betreff: Re: AW: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Its "open source" but you can't change it without permission...
>> weird.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Roland Ndaka Fru wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hello,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> You can request the source code using the contact form on the
>> webpage.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Grretz,
>> > >>> Roland.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > >>> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> > >>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von
>> Peter
>> > >>> Bowyer
>> > >>> Gesendet: 10 March 2007 09:46
>> > >>> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> > >>> Betreff: Re: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In what way is the software Open Source? I couldn't find
>> anywhere on
>> > >>> your website to download the souce code, and the license agreement
>> > >>> isn't of any recognised OSS form.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Does the product use any OSS components?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Peter
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 08/03/07, Roland Ndaka Fru <pedros09 at ndaka.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hello Steve & all Asteriskis,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> You can check out the YakaPhone and its OEM derivatives at
>> > >>>> www.yakasoftware.com. It is IAX/IAX2, simple, open and you can
>> use it
>> > >>>>
>> > >> with
>> > >>
>> > >>>> any server to see if it fits your stability requirements.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Regards,
>> > >>>> Roland.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > >>>> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> > >>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von
>> Steve
>> > >>>>
>> > >> Totaro
>> > >>
>> > >>>> Gesendet: 08 March 2007 21:08
>> > >>>> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> > >>>> Betreff: RE: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-
>> > >>>>> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mohsen Basirat
>> > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:33 PM
>> > >>>>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>> > >>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Dear all
>> > >>>>> if you are interested in IAX2 OEM softphone we can
>> > >>>>> provide is for you with your logo and your brand name
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Regards
>> > >>>>> Mohsen Basirat
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>> Can you provide a demo of some sort?  Most softphones I have
>> seen are
>> > >>>> unstable, especially IAX2 softphones.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>> Steve
>> > >>>>
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