AW: AW: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available

[Peter Bowyer]

No comment from the vendor.... I guess my next course of action is to
report a violation of the LGPL to the copyright owner of iaxclient?

Peter

On 10/03/07, Peter Bowyer <peter at bowyer.org> wrote:
> Perhaps Roland could clarify this. The product certainly does include
> Qt and iaxclient. I received a copy of the yakaphone source code,
> which came with no license information at all. Hard to work out what
> my rights and obligations are.
>
> Since the binary distribution, which is a single Windows executable,
> incorporates iaxclient, I believe it should comply with section 6 of
> the LGPL.
>
> I think the moral here is that just saying something is Open Source
> doesn't make it so. If you're going to build on other peoples' Open
> Source efforts, you need to respect the license, and probably get your
> own license written by someone who understands the subject area.
>
> Peter
>
> On 10/03/07, Zoa <zoachien at securax.org> wrote:
> >
> > Just to be clear, it is not a problem that its not open source compliant
> > (we don't even supply sources to our softphone), he only has to release
> > iaxclient in LGPL to be ok.
> > (Although if they are using Qt and are using a free version, it's a
> > violation of the Qt license).
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Zoa.
> >
> > Zoa wrote:
> > > I would say: the source is available, but its not open source.
> > >
> > > From http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php :
> > >
> > >
> > >      6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
> > >
> > > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in
> > > a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the
> > > program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic
> > > research.
> > >
> > >
> > >      3. Derived Works
> > >
> > > The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow
> > > them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the
> > > original software.
> > >
> > >    /*Rationale:* The mere ability to read source isn't enough to
> > >    support independent peer review and rapid evolutionary selection.
> > >    For rapid evolution to happen, people need to be able to experiment
> > >    with and redistribute modifications.
> > >    /
> > >
> > >    /
> > >    /
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Roland Ndaka Fru wrote:
> > >> ...You can't change it for COMMERCIAL use without permission...
> > >>
> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > >> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von Zoa
> > >> Gesendet: 10 March 2007 15:43
> > >> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > >> Betreff: Re: AW: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Its "open source" but you can't change it without permission... weird.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Roland Ndaka Fru wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>>
> > >>> You can request the source code using the contact form on the webpage.
> > >>>
> > >>> Grretz,
> > >>> Roland.
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >>> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > >>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von Peter
> > >>> Bowyer
> > >>> Gesendet: 10 March 2007 09:46
> > >>> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > >>> Betreff: Re: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
> > >>>
> > >>> In what way is the software Open Source? I couldn't find anywhere on
> > >>> your website to download the souce code, and the license agreement
> > >>> isn't of any recognised OSS form.
> > >>>
> > >>> Does the product use any OSS components?
> > >>>
> > >>> Peter
> > >>>
> > >>> On 08/03/07, Roland Ndaka Fru <pedros09 at ndaka.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hello Steve & all Asteriskis,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You can check out the YakaPhone and its OEM derivatives at
> > >>>> www.yakasoftware.com. It is IAX/IAX2, simple, open and you can use it
> > >>>>
> > >> with
> > >>
> > >>>> any server to see if it fits your stability requirements.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Roland.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >>>> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > >>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von Steve
> > >>>>
> > >> Totaro
> > >>
> > >>>> Gesendet: 08 March 2007 21:08
> > >>>> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > >>>> Betreff: RE: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> > >>>>> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mohsen Basirat
> > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:33 PM
> > >>>>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> > >>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Dear all
> > >>>>> if you are interested in IAX2 OEM softphone we can
> > >>>>> provide is for you with your logo and your brand name
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards
> > >>>>> Mohsen Basirat
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Can you provide a demo of some sort?  Most softphones I have seen are
> > >>>> unstable, especially IAX2 softphones.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Steve
> > >>>>
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