[asterisk-biz] Voip phone with Wifi & GSM
Matthew Rubenstein
email at mattruby.com
Mon Jul 23 09:01:15 CDT 2007
Maybe you are a trader. You are definitely a liar. And so crazy that
you ignore every other damning fact I mentioned, that anyone else has
mentioned.
You are a crook. Do not email me again.
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 21:51 +0800, Andy Spring wrote:
> Yes, I am a trader, the manufacture about the voip phone is our
> partern in cooperation.
>
> 在07-7-23，Matthew Rubenstein <email at mattruby.com> 写道：
> Just some more data points, and my conclusion, on our
> long overdue
> review of Andy Spring:
>
> I translated the Chinese message (quoted/appended
> below) that Spring
> replied to Sergey, using
> http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=zh|en :
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> "老兄你可能搞错了，我之前发给你的是视频电话的资料，我是
> 一个中间商，这没
> 必要向你隐瞒，但那也不是华为的产品啊，而我现在在推我们另一款带
> 有WIFI功能
> 的网络话机，我不知道你在LIST里面说那些话是什么意思。"
> =========================================================
> "Bud you might mistake, I sent to you before the video
> phone, I would
> be a broker, It is not necessary to hide you, but this is not
> Huawei's
> products ah, I am now pushing us to another with a Wi-Fi
> network
> walkie-talkie function, I do not know in your LIST said those
> inside
> what is the meaning of words."
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> So Spring says he never claimed it was his own tech,
> and that it is not
> Huawei tech, too. But, according to the discussion to which
> Sergey
> linked, Spring did claim:
>
> "No, it is not Huawei's ViewPoint 8220, it is our
> company's product."
>
> And then Spring changes the subject back to the new
> WiFi/SIP phone.
>
> FWIW, I don't know why someone with the name "Sergey",
> speaking in
> English on the list, with a domain voipsolutions.ru , would
> appear to be
> Chinese.
>
> I replied to a message Spring sent me last week, Cc'ed
> to this list, in
> which he refused to answer what is the phone's CPU, or what is
> the
> dev/deployment env for 3rd party SW (after he agreed that it
> would run
> 3rd party SW):
> http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-biz/2007-July/022777.html .
> Spring claimed it was because I'm not a customer. My reply
> includes
> several other long-overdue criticisms explaining why I'll
> never send a
> penny to Spring. Because he is a terrible businessperson, and
> probably a
> crook. And asking if anyone had ever bought anything from him,
> and had
> anything good to say. Even this "Jamal from Canada" Spring
> claims bought
> some equipment from him in China hasn't materialized on the
> list to say
> anything. He probably doesn't exist, except in lies from
> Spring.
>
> I don't need to see any more. Spring is a liar. He's a
> terrible
> businessperson. He seems to represent exactly the kind of
> Chinese
> electronics dealer that is the grain of truth in the
> stereotype that
> they're crooks, with nothing but contempt for us, their
> English speaking
> "market". I wish other, honest, Chinese businesspeople would
> police
> these people. China isn't unique in its mixed reputation for
> corrupt
> business, nor in the actually corrupt business that the
> reputation is
> based on. But it is the largest, and probably the most
> reputable for
> that corruption (maybe after Nigeria overall, but in
> electronics it's
> #1). China is setting itself up to be the world's factory. But
> business
> has to be more than an ad for cheap goods before I do business
> with it.
>
>
> On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 15:37 +0800, Andy Spring wrote:
> >
> > Sergey,
> >
> > I think maybe you are a Chinese person, I have some words to
> let you
> > know also everyone in the list.
> > 老兄你可能搞错了，我之前发给你的是视频电话的资料，我是一个中
> 间商，这没
> > 必要向你隐瞒，但那也不是华为的产品啊，而我现在在推我们另一款
> 带有WIFI功
> > 能的网络话机，我不知道你在LIST里面说那些话是什么意思。
> >
> > If you are not not Chinese, ok, I will let you know in
> english, I
> > think you have made a mistake, the product I sent you before
> is
> > videophone not Voip phone with wifi and gsm, now I am put
> sale our new
> > item which is wireless Voip phone not videophone that I sent
> you
> > before, I do not know what is your meaning you said in the
> list
> >
> >
> >
> > 2007/7/23, Sergey <b2b at ipstyle.org>:
> > Hello, Andy.
> >
> > You wrote 21.07.2007, 17:39:23:
> >
> > > I can post the details here, I thought before, if
> not
> > everyone
> > > isinterested in our Wifi & GSM phone, so no need
> to post
> > here,
> > > because some people will think I am posting spam
> and rubbish
> > here
> > > and will scold me. So I can only send the details
> to whom
> > with interest.
> > >
> > > Sergey, are you sure, our Wifi and GSM voip phone
> is Huawei
> > > Viewpoint 8220? have you tested our sample?? NOT !
> so please
> > do not
> > > say any unreason words.
> >
> > Please read carefully. Some time ago i requested
> info from you
> > about
> > your SIP video phone, and you provided me PDF which
> contains
> > info
> > about Huawei Viewpoint 8220, although you claimed it
> is your
> > own
> > development.
> >
> > Dear list, here are some proof:
> >
> > Our small thread with Andy:
> > http://voipsolutions.ru/andy/andy.html
> > Andy's PDF: http://voipsolutions.ru/andy/andy.pdf
> >
> > Huawei 8220:
> >
> http://www.futurewei.com/itemsdetail.asp?dt=products&ID=122
> >
> > Andy, can you show us your site? or at least some
> photos of
> > your
> > products? no? why?
> >
> > > This item of our new product is different
> > > Huawei Viewpoint 8220 also different Nokia, it's
> line is
> > with
> > > interenet and with a very low rate. Yes, maybe the
> machine
> > is a
> > > little higher but the rate is very cheap, it can
> only work
> > with
> > > internet, and it is worth it. Again, Sergey, if
> you have no
> > intend
> > > to buy any product here in this list, please
> kindly do not
> > ask
> > > anyone to waste their timeto send information to
> you.
> > >
> > >
> > > JR-DW1 One Page Specification
> > ...
> > <snip>
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Sergey mailto:
> b2b at ipstyle.org
> >
> >
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>
>
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>
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> andy
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