[asterisk-biz] Voip phone with Wifi & GSM
Matthew Rubenstein
email at mattruby.com
Mon Jul 23 09:11:03 CDT 2007
You don't even deny that you are a liar or crazy.
But you did email me again, but not to the list.
Do not email me again.
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 22:04 +0800, Andy Spring wrote:
> I am not crook!!!
>
> I can provide the what I said
>
>
> 在07-7-23，Matthew Rubenstein <email at mattruby.com> 写道：
> Maybe you are a trader. You are definitely a liar. And
> so crazy that
> you ignore every other damning fact I mentioned, that anyone
> else has
> mentioned.
>
> You are a crook. Do not email me again.
>
>
> On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 21:51 +0800, Andy Spring wrote:
> > Yes, I am a trader, the manufacture about the voip phone is
> our
> > partern in cooperation.
> >
> > 在07-7-23，Matthew Rubenstein <email at mattruby.com> 写道：
> > Just some more data points, and my
> conclusion, on our
> > long overdue
> > review of Andy Spring:
> >
> > I translated the Chinese message
> (quoted/appended
> > below) that Spring
> > replied to Sergey, using
> > http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=zh|
> en :
> >
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > "老兄你可能搞错了，我之前发给你的是视频电话的
> 资料，我是
> > 一个中间商，这没
> > 必要向你隐瞒，但那也不是华为的产品啊，而我现在在推我
> 们另一款带
> > 有WIFI功能
> > 的网络话机，我不知道你在LIST里面说那些话是什么意
> 思。"
> >
> =========================================================
> > "Bud you might mistake, I sent to you before
> the video
> > phone, I would
> > be a broker, It is not necessary to hide you, but
> this is not
> > Huawei's
> > products ah, I am now pushing us to another with a
> Wi-Fi
> > network
> > walkie-talkie function, I do not know in your LIST
> said those
> > inside
> > what is the meaning of words."
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > So Spring says he never claimed it was his
> own tech,
> > and that it is not
> > Huawei tech, too. But, according to the discussion
> to which
> > Sergey
> > linked, Spring did claim:
> >
> > "No, it is not Huawei's ViewPoint 8220, it is
> our
> > company's product."
> >
> > And then Spring changes the subject back to
> the new
> > WiFi/SIP phone.
> >
> > FWIW, I don't know why someone with the name
> "Sergey",
> > speaking in
> > English on the list, with a domain
> voipsolutions.ru , would
> > appear to be
> > Chinese.
> >
> > I replied to a message Spring sent me last
> week, Cc'ed
> > to this list, in
> > which he refused to answer what is the phone's CPU,
> or what is
> > the
> > dev/deployment env for 3rd party SW (after he agreed
> that it
> > would run
> > 3rd party SW):
> >
> http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-biz/2007-July/022777.html .
> > Spring claimed it was because I'm not a customer. My
> reply
> > includes
> > several other long-overdue criticisms explaining why
> I'll
> > never send a
> > penny to Spring. Because he is a terrible
> businessperson, and
> > probably a
> > crook. And asking if anyone had ever bought anything
> from him,
> > and had
> > anything good to say. Even this "Jamal from Canada"
> Spring
> > claims bought
> > some equipment from him in China hasn't materialized
> on the
> > list to say
> > anything. He probably doesn't exist, except in lies
> from
> > Spring.
> >
> > I don't need to see any more. Spring is a
> liar. He's a
> > terrible
> > businessperson. He seems to represent exactly the
> kind of
> > Chinese
> > electronics dealer that is the grain of truth in the
> > stereotype that
> > they're crooks, with nothing but contempt for us,
> their
> > English speaking
> > "market". I wish other, honest, Chinese
> businesspeople would
> > police
> > these people. China isn't unique in its mixed
> reputation for
> > corrupt
> > business, nor in the actually corrupt business that
> the
> > reputation is
> > based on. But it is the largest, and probably the
> most
> > reputable for
> > that corruption (maybe after Nigeria overall, but in
> > electronics it's
> > #1). China is setting itself up to be the world's
> factory. But
> > business
> > has to be more than an ad for cheap goods before I
> do business
> > with it.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 15:37 +0800, Andy Spring
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sergey,
> > >
> > > I think maybe you are a Chinese person, I have
> some words to
> > let you
> > > know also everyone in the list.
> > > 老兄你可能搞错了，我之前发给你的是视频电话的资料，
> 我是一个中
> > 间商，这没
> > > 必要向你隐瞒，但那也不是华为的产品啊，而我现在在推
> 我们另一款
> > 带有WIFI功
> > > 能的网络话机，我不知道你在LIST里面说那些话是什么意
> 思。
> > >
> > > If you are not not Chinese, ok, I will let you
> know in
> > english, I
> > > think you have made a mistake, the product I sent
> you before
> > is
> > > videophone not Voip phone with wifi and gsm, now I
> am put
> > sale our new
> > > item which is wireless Voip phone not videophone
> that I sent
> > you
> > > before, I do not know what is your meaning you
> said in the
> > list
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2007/7/23, Sergey <b2b at ipstyle.org>:
> > > Hello, Andy.
> > >
> > > You wrote 21.07.2007, 17:39:23:
> > >
> > > > I can post the details here, I thought
> before, if
> > not
> > > everyone
> > > > isinterested in our Wifi & GSM phone, so
> no need
> > to post
> > > here,
> > > > because some people will think I am
> posting spam
> > and rubbish
> > > here
> > > > and will scold me. So I can only send
> the details
> > to whom
> > > with interest.
> > > >
> > > > Sergey, are you sure, our Wifi and GSM
> voip phone
> > is Huawei
> > > > Viewpoint 8220? have you tested our
> sample?? NOT !
> > so please
> > > do not
> > > > say any unreason words.
> > >
> > > Please read carefully. Some time ago i
> requested
> > info from you
> > > about
> > > your SIP video phone, and you provided me
> PDF which
> > contains
> > > info
> > > about Huawei Viewpoint 8220, although you
> claimed it
> > is your
> > > own
> > > development.
> > >
> > > Dear list, here are some proof:
> > >
> > > Our small thread with Andy:
> > > http://voipsolutions.ru/andy/andy.html
> > > Andy's PDF:
> http://voipsolutions.ru/andy/andy.pdf
> > >
> > > Huawei 8220:
> > >
> >
> http://www.futurewei.com/itemsdetail.asp?dt=products&ID=122
> > >
> > > Andy, can you show us your site? or at
> least some
> > photos of
> > > your
> > > products? no? why?
> > >
> > > > This item of our new product is
> different
> > > > Huawei Viewpoint 8220 also different
> Nokia, it's
> > line is
> > > with
> > > > interenet and with a very low rate. Yes,
> maybe the
> > machine
> > > is a
> > > > little higher but the rate is very
> cheap, it can
> > only work
> > > with
> > > > internet, and it is worth it. Again,
> Sergey, if
> > you have no
> > > intend
> > > > to buy any product here in this list,
> please
> > kindly do not
> > > ask
> > > > anyone to waste their timeto send
> information to
> > you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > JR-DW1 One Page Specification
> > > ...
> > > <snip>
> > > ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Sergey mailto:
> > b2b at ipstyle.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > andyspr at gmail.com
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> > (C) Matthew Rubenstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > andy
> > andyspr at gmail.com
> --
>
> (C) Matthew Rubenstein
>
>
>
>
> --
> andy
> andyspr at gmail.com
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