[asterisk-biz] International Origination

Mike Hammett asterisk-biz at ics-il.net
Wed Nov 29 13:45:04 MST 2006 

Agreed.

I work with a few LECs, but with a few of the larger ones, it clearly pays 
to go through a third party even if you can muster their minimums.  One time 
at the same volume (past Level(3)'s commit), the third party was still half 
the price.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt" <mhoppes at gmail.com>
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] International Origination


> Mike,
> Understood... we are a larger VoIP player, but certainly not Vonage
> size, however I have no issues bargaining with LECS.   We work very
> closely with several LECS and I talk to their people almost daily for
> LNPs, 911, CALLER-ID, etc.. to the point where they know me by
> caller-id now.   All I'm saying is, we are a larger VoIP provider,
> trying to offer quality services, and as a result, I need to be
> assured that the provider I am going through will offer me solid
> services.
>
> On 11/29/06, Mike Hammett <asterisk-biz at ics-il.net> wrote:
>> Your due diligence would make it Matt-knows-what.  You should carry out 
>> your
>> due diligence with every provider.
>>
>> I'm sure we all fit in-between the two cases you just posed:  Vonage and
>> hobby, yet you have to be almost Vonage size to have any real bargaining
>> power with the LECs.  That is where resellers and services like DIDX come 
>> in
>> to play.
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Matt" <mhoppes at gmail.com>
>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] International Origination
>>
>>
>> >I refuse to use DIDx because of the way they want me to allocate
>> > numbers to them and how everything needs to route through them.  I
>> > want to go straight to the source for my routes and numbers.   DIDx is
>> > great if you are trying to run a hobby VoIP service... or maybe even a
>> > small PBX for a small company, but you can't honestly tell me that any
>> > large corporation would trust putting their customer numbers into the
>> > hands of who-knows-what.
>> >
>> > On 11/29/06, Al Bochter <Al.Bochter at bochterservices.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  I have two FREE numbers from www.didx.net
>> >>
>> >>  One in the UK . That is useless to me.
>> >>  One in OH Thats one is ok only if I want to pay LD Fees to test your
>> >> service
>> >>
>> >>  I was looking to order one in Altoona PA.
>> >>  And I tried to enter Toll Free DID'S to sell with no luck.
>> >>
>> >>  I can't say anything bad about the service at this point... I never 
>> >> used
>> >> the service... But think about buying and selling there... Maybe!
>> >>  If the service is any good..
>> >>
>> >>  We will see what the list has to say about your service.
>> >>  Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Al Bochter
>> >> Bochter Services
>> >> http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
>> >>
>> >> (VOIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254
>> >>
>> >> (Voip PBX) Free World DialUp: 780-217
>> >> WebSite: http://www.freeworlddialup.com/
>> >>
>> >> We have Toll Free DID's instock
>> >> * * * NO MONTHLY FEE - LIMITED TIME ONLY * * *
>> >> http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TF(NM)did
>> >>
>> >> BUY Coins, Silver and Gold
>> >> http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=gold&t=email
>> >>
>> >> For new and used security items
>> >> http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=store&t=email_security
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Linda Goldsmith wrote:
>> >>  Dear Al,
>> >>
>> >> Why don't you Signup for a FREE Account, get 2 Free numbers, and try 
>> >> it
>> >> for
>> >> your self ?
>> >>
>> >> www.didx.net
>> >>
>> >> Linda
>> >>
>> >> Date sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:46:03 -0500
>> >> From: Al Bochter <Al.Bochter at bochterservices.com>
>> >> Organization: Bochter Services
>> >> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> >>  <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] International Origination
>> >> Send reply to: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> >>  <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> >>  <asterisk-biz.lists.digium.com>
>> >> <mailto:asterisk-biz-request at lists.digium.com?subject=unsubscribe>
>> >> <mailto:asterisk-biz-request at lists.digium.com?subject=subscribe>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  // Have you experienced poor service from DIDX?
>> >>
>> >> Can you please tell me more about the poor service from DIDX I was
>> >> looking to use there service.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Al Bochter
>> >> Bochter Services
>> >> http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
>> >>
>> >> (VOIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254
>> >>
>> >> (Voip PBX) Free World DialUp: 780-217
>> >> WebSite: http://www.freeworlddialup.com/
>> >>
>> >> We have Toll Free DID's instock
>> >> * * * NO MONTHLY FEE - LIMITED TIME ONLY * * *
>> >> http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TF(NM)did
>> >>
>> >> BUY Coins, Silver and Gold
>> >> http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=gold&t=email
>> >>
>> >> For new and used security items
>> >> http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=store&t=email_security
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mike Hammett wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  What all countries does Level(3) have VoIP services in?
>> >>
>> >> Have you experienced poor service from DIDX?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----
>> >> Mike Hammett
>> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >> http://www.ics-il.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Thomas" <punknow at gmail.com>
>> >> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>> >> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:35 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] International Origination
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Level-3 Communications can provide this service, however be prepared
>> >> for the customary $10K - $50K monthly service minimum. Gotta pay to
>> >> play.
>> >>
>> >> Then again there is DIDX, which can probably provide the DIDs you
>> >> want, but don't expect reliability or good support.
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> David
>> >>
>> >> On 11/28/06, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Hi,
>> >> I am looking for someone who can provide me with International
>> >> origination. I am, however, extremely picky and require the
>> >> following:
>> >>
>> >> * Your company have been around for more than a year
>> >> * There be more than 1 support person at your company
>> >> * An after-hours out of service contact
>> >> * Competitive rates for origination DIDs
>> >>
>> >> If you are able to offer these services, please contact me at
>> >> mhoppes at chili tech.net (without the space) or via 570-323-2166 x 126
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
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