[asterisk-biz] VoicePulse's New Tiered Pricing is a Huge Success!

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Todd had a true and valid point.  Plainvoip has a LCR MACRO app like
voicepulse.  I was going to make one utilizing both companies 

LCR API's but I figured voicepulse might try to sue me or something so I
didn't bother.  But nevertheless most providers and do NPANXX

breakout pricing but there are 2 problems I see..  First is that there are
145,000 codes approx just the US48.  This doesn't include Canada

or outlying US territories or states.  Secondly like Todd has mentioned in
his email yes..  You could have costs up to 6c or so for some areas. 

 

If the client does a lot of calling to RBOC's then he/she would actually
benefit from this but if the general person calls all over the country 

into NON-RBOC locations they could end up seeing their costs sky rocket.  I
know from experience my parents live in a non-rboc and it costs

upward of 4c to terminate a call to them cause of the tariffs set forth by
the LEC.  

 

 

Thanks for the insight Todd.

  _____  

From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of VoIP Street -
Todd Routhier
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:35 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] VoicePulse's New Tiered Pricing is a Huge
Success!

 

I see both sides of this but.. 

I think the point others were trying to make is this.. 

It's all fine and good to send only traffic that's expensive to terminate to
a blended rate carrier until the blended rate carrier starts losing money.
Once all the blended rate providers quit offering the blended rates because
of this then you will start seeing things like .06/minute to certain areas
like Maine where it actually cost this much to terminate traffic.

The reason it's rare to see a rate like that is not because it's cheap to
terminate everywhere, it's because companies offer reasonable rates to these
areas and actually lose money on the calls. How can they do this? They can
lose money on these calls because they make a profit when terminating to the
less expensive areas.

If you only send a blended rate providers the expensive calls, they will
only lose money forcing them to offer tiered services only which is a hassle
to most of the smaller players.

When purchasing a flat rate TDM circuits, the carrier is going to hold you
to an 80/20 RBOB/Non RBOC clause. This clause was mentioned earlier in this
thread but I thought I would explain it for those that are not familiar with
the term.

Before I can explain this you have to know what an RBOC and a NON RBOC is.. 

RBOC = Regional Bell Operating Carrier
Non RBOC = A small telco in a one horse town that can and will rake anyone
and everyone including other phone companies over the coals when they try to
terminate a call to their one horse town.

So then, an 80/20 rule means that the calls you send to your carrier must be
to RBOC locations at least 80% of the time. This is to protect them from
offering a low blended rate where they expect average and customary blended
usage and getting hurt financially by having a customer only send them the
traffic they lose money on.

Nothing wrong with VoicePulse offering the LCR macro but there is also
nothing wrong with others learning the possible pitfalls of using it in
conjunction with a blended rate carrier TDM or otherwise.

I am not taking sides here, just thought a clear explanation would help.. 




Regards,
 Todd Routhier
 VoIP Street
 http://www.VoIPstreet.com



Paul wrote: 

trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
 
  

On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 03:35 -0400, alex at pilosoft.com wrote:
 
 
    

The point I am making is that if you are doing LCR and 'cherrypicking', 
the blended-rate provider is getting screwed.
   
 
      

yeah, in a different post he just wanted to know what the program was.  
 
If you think about how competitive business can be though its not a bad
thing to set up a situation where your competition has to raise rates or
go under and when you make money its not just that your competition isnt
for that good/service but that it makes it harder for your competition
to survive in their chosen business model.
 
I have to give kudos to them for that.  Its rare when a company can put
themselves into a position where they can not just take business away
    

>from their competition but also cause harm to their competition at the
  

same exact time.  
 
If anyone feels this is not appropriate, to them I say this is
asterisk-biz not asterisk-communist-hippie and if its legal you shouldnt
really knock someone for creating a business model that conflicts with
someone elses chosen business model.
 
 
 
    

The program is designed to save the customer money. Maybe that harms
competitors who won't give me those savings? Too bad.
 
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