[asterisk-biz] The Value of VoIP subscribers

Dean Collins Dean at collins.net.pr
Sun Feb 19 07:20:53 MST 2006


I've stayed out of this conversation until now, there is no way a
company can be valued at 4.0 profit for such a fluid industry. Likewise
Yair, you can value subs against subs for Vonage, there is a whole
different dynamic associated with scale.

 

Cheers,

 

Dean

 

 

 

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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Yair Hakak
Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2006 9:06 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] The Value of VoIP subscribers

 

I don't know anyone who would value using such a method. After 4 years i
assume the company is going to be vaporized?

This may be how you value something with a short asset life (a car, for
example) but it's far to primitive a method to value a going concern
with.

 

-yair

 

p.s. no offense meant, contstructive criticism only. Your point about
valuing from the point of view of the buyer, however, is very well
taken.

 

On 2/19/06, Ron Arts <ron.arts at neonova.nl> wrote: 

CC Asterisk wrote:
> Well basically we have a small service company with about 3200 subs.
We
> are exploring the possibility of selling it to an ITSP. My main
question 
> was beyond the formulas - is there some kind of accepted valuation in
> the VoIP industry.
> Our churn in the last 2 years has been about  0.8% a month. We work in
a
> specific niche and have been growing nicely there. 
>
> Does that help?
> Mark
>

I can offer you a more traditional way of looking at it:
suppose I buy your company. I do that because I want to make money.
When? Well many people say after 3-4 years. Suppose you have a yearly 
profit of $200000. If I want to make money after 4 years I would
not pay more then $800000 for your company.

Figures are just examples, and I know there are more things to consider
like growth potential, intrinsic value etc, and this may not be
applicable 
in new and fast growing industries, but try to think like a potential
buyer,
and try to find the buyer that sees the most value in your company.

Basically value is in the eye of the buyer.

Ron


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