[Asterisk-biz] lowest voip service with IAX2 termination

[James Taylor]

All LD, unless totally VOIP cost money.

Forget about the term "toll free" - that's just marketing talk for the  
consumer making the call.

800 calls are actually "REVERSE BILLING" called party pays instead of  
calling party.

So, if I sell you an 800 number, I pay the LD company that originates the  
call from the PSTN from .004 to .015 to deliver the call to my gateway,  
switch or whatever, then I tag on my part to deliver the call to you.

Think of the carrier like a moving van company, the guy who delivers the  
furniture gets paid the most.

Since I am a RESPORG and program my own 800 numbers, I may, in some LATAs  
handle all legs of the call and in that case, I get to keep all of the  
money.

800 numbers either go to an IXC (ld carrier) who has connections in each  
LATA or, to *multiple* carriers.
They can be programmed to ring directly to DID numbers in some LATAs via  
the LEC and in other LATAs via an IXC.
So, in LATAs where I have a switch (gateway), I carry my own 800 traffic.   
In other LATAs, I send the traffic to an LD carrier.

There are just a handfull of Independent RESPORGs (like myself) out  
there.  Most are LD carriers and will ONLY send traffic to themselves (why  
give away the revenue?).

This leads me to my commercial:
"...Independent RESPORG service available.  Program your 800 numbers to go  
to multiple carriers. Pick your best rates.  Other features include: Same  
800 number to multiple destinations, time-of-day routing, day-of-year  
routing, block/allow any call by selecting ANI, LATA, STATE, AREACODE,  
etc.  AND, all of this take place BEFORE it ever hits your gateway.

Don't be at the mercy of your LD carrier.  If you buy from a carrier and  
your relationship goes South, I can have your numbers re-routed in minutes  
-- without contacting them..."

Now, for all you calling card companies out there that understand this,  
give me a call:


James Taylor
MetroTel
903-793-1956

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:43:20 -0600, Anton Krall  
<akrall-lists at intruder.com.mx> wrote:

> I understand what you say Brandon but that’s exactly what I was  
> wondering.
> If when using pstn, the called person of an 800 number is the one that  
> pays
> for the call, why on voip, the calle has to pay something when in fact,  
> when
> connecting the call, the voip providers doesn’t pay for the call either,  
> the
> connecting from their voip equipment to pstn for that cal is also paid by
> the persona owning the 800 number.
>
> As you just explained, the voip carrier has equipment to link you (voip)  
> to
> pstn, and that’s why you pay for the call, for using that gateway.
>
> My question would be then, for example, joipjet charges 1.3 cents for LD  
> and
> toll free calls. For LD calls I can understand the prices but how did  
> they
> get to the same number for toll free calls? They are not paying for the  
> LD
> interconnection, the 800 owner does, so, does their voip - pstn gateway  
> rank
> on the same expenses as LD calls?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Brandon
> Patterson
> Sent: Sábado, 26 de Marzo de 2005 11:02 a.m.
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] lowest voip service with IAX2 termination
>
> 800 calls are not free. The called party pays the bill. Every call takes  
> up
> so much bandwidth and the equipment to process that call PSTN or VoIP. A
> carriers like MCI for example has alot of capacity and when you are a  
> PSTN
> customer MCI will be happy to allow you to have access to many calls in
> progress.
> Unlimited, Free - never. VoIP providers use gateways between their  
> equipment
> and the carriers. Many carriers use a Session Border Control device  
> between
> the VoIP provider and their switch. In most cases this is where the  
> limit on
> the amount of calls becomes a problem. Carriers, VoIP providers and  
> anyone
> with business sense is not going to purchase mega amount of expensive
> equipment for customers that can be here this month, gone the next.
>
> Brandon Patterson
> LiveVoip LLC
> http://www.livevoip.com
>
> * uLaw will give you the best match in most cases with the majority of
> providers/carriers.
> ** In band DTMF, RFC2388, T.38 are all things that are NOT supported on  
> many
> of the major networks. Until the markets started growing again these  
> things
> are slow to happen. How do you buy equipment when calls are selling at  
> the
> carrier level for less than 1/4 of a penny?
>
>
>
> Same reason as they are free on PSTN lines, or, how does that change from
> pstn and voip?
>
>
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-- 
James Taylor
MetroTel
3505 Summerihll Road
Suite 11
Texarkana, Texas  75503
903-793-1956