[Asterisk-biz] lowest voip service with IAX2 termination

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I believe that most providers usually charge the same amount for terminating 
toll free as they do for LD.  It's true it doesn't cost the terminating 
party anything to terminate a toll free call but as mentioned before 
equipment & bandwidth is an issue.  So this per minute charge is just an 
effort to help cover some costs, and avoid abuse of service.  Where as in a 
TDM to TDM situation the fixed expense of the local loop is already there, 
so overheads in regards to the circuit are covered for the most part, so 
terminating toll free is well...free.

-Jon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anton Krall" <akrall-lists at intruder.com.mx>
To: "'Brandon Patterson'" <siptech at livevoip.com>; "'Commercial and 
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] lowest voip service with IAX2 termination


I understand what you say Brandon but that's exactly what I was wondering.
If when using pstn, the called person of an 800 number is the one that pays
for the call, why on voip, the calle has to pay something when in fact, when
connecting the call, the voip providers doesn't pay for the call either, the
connecting from their voip equipment to pstn for that cal is also paid by
the persona owning the 800 number.

As you just explained, the voip carrier has equipment to link you (voip) to
pstn, and that's why you pay for the call, for using that gateway.

My question would be then, for example, joipjet charges 1.3 cents for LD and
toll free calls. For LD calls I can understand the prices but how did they
get to the same number for toll free calls? They are not paying for the LD
interconnection, the 800 owner does, so, does their voip - pstn gateway rank
on the same expenses as LD calls?



-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Brandon
Patterson
Sent: Sábado, 26 de Marzo de 2005 11:02 a.m.
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] lowest voip service with IAX2 termination

800 calls are not free. The called party pays the bill. Every call takes up
so much bandwidth and the equipment to process that call PSTN or VoIP. A
carriers like MCI for example has alot of capacity and when you are a PSTN
customer MCI will be happy to allow you to have access to many calls in
progress.
Unlimited, Free - never. VoIP providers use gateways between their equipment
and the carriers. Many carriers use a Session Border Control device between
the VoIP provider and their switch. In most cases this is where the limit on
the amount of calls becomes a problem. Carriers, VoIP providers and anyone
with business sense is not going to purchase mega amount of expensive
equipment for customers that can be here this month, gone the next.

Brandon Patterson
LiveVoip LLC
http://www.livevoip.com

* uLaw will give you the best match in most cases with the majority of
providers/carriers.
** In band DTMF, RFC2388, T.38 are all things that are NOT supported on many
of the major networks. Until the markets started growing again these things
are slow to happen. How do you buy equipment when calls are selling at the
carrier level for less than 1/4 of a penny?



Same reason as they are free on PSTN lines, or, how does that change from
pstn and voip?


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