[Asterisk-biz] Re: USA Termination
Matthew Simpson
matthew at txlink.net
Mon Apr 25 16:58:17 MST 2005
> From: alex at pilosoft.com
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Matthew Simpson wrote:
>
>> I was waiting for you or Alex to chime in with that. If you're not
>> buying from an IXC like Qwest or Global crossing you can get rates at
>> 0.005 and below for all tiers, including NECA. The interconnect cost is
>> 0.003 or less, so selling at 0.005 or 0.0075 would be profitable.
> Uh how's that? Whoever you buy from has to pay NECA access tariff.
That's true... if you connect to the access tandem. ;)
>
>> You can go out and buy foreign<-->US settlement traffic for 0.006
>> through 0.015 blended that includes NECA all day long.
> Yeah, but that's borderline illegal ;)
How so? Major carriers sell settlement traffic all day long. We run a
private peering that has some major international telcos trading traffic
with all peers, and settlement traffic is a hot item right now.
>
> See lawsuits thrown around between SBC/Verizon and ATT/MCI.
You're talking about the "Starts as TDM -- IP transport -- ends as TDM"
lawsuits, right? That was found to be illegal. And I'm not advocating
that. That was a poor excuse for a loophole that was tried for a while, but
none of the arbitrage players of today are setting themselves up that way.
>
>> I know it can suck to be a "wholesaler" out there reselling IXC routes
>> and get hit with the new VoIP guys selling below your "cost", but if
>> you're still buying and selling on the old TDM model, you'd better be
>> selling to end-users, because nobody else will pay those prices for
>> routes. Our company is glad to see more VoIP wholesalers out there, if
>> someone's cheaper than we are, we'll buy from them, and it's just better
>> for the industry all around.
> TDM or not TDM, the bottom line is, there's access tariff. How do you
> get around that? I'm not aware that if you trunk into each individual EO,
> you somehow avoid paying access tariff. (I think there's a specific
> different tariff for direct-EO interconnect but to my knowledge it is
> identical to access tariff).
You pay access only on access traffic. You don't pay access on local
traffic. ;)
Yours,
Matthew
www.txlink.net/
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