[asterisk-users] twenty thousands (20, 000) users, which asterisk and how many servers

Fri May 25 14:40:05 CDT 2012

Asterisk Realtime is better for administration. 

Performance,  IMHO is the same issue. I'm not lucky to made large
implementations to test these.

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El vie, 25-05-2012 a las 07:06 -0700, bilal ghayyad escribió:

> Hi John;
> 
> For 20,000 users: Is it better to use Asterisk realtime configuration or to use conf files?
> 
> I readed the below link but did not understand which GUI that works with asterisk realtime?
> 
> http://www.freepbx.org/trac/wiki/AsteriskRealtime
> 
> 
> Regards
> Bilal
> 
> ------------
> > 
> > > My question is:
> > >
> > > Is it really possible to have the asterisk
> > configuration in the database server instead of having it in
> > conf files? HOW? I am asking this because what I noticed in
> > AsteriskNow and in A2Billing and Vicidial or Goautodial that
> > whatever I do configuration in the GUI, then the
> > configuration will be generated in the conf files, so
> > Asterisk will read from the conf files and not from the
> > database directly. Is it right or I am confused and there is
> > something else?
> > >
> > > If there is a method to let the configuration to be
> > taken from the database (and not from the configuration),
> > then HOW? Because even in AsteriskNow, the configuration
> > will be generated in a conf files.
> > 
> > Hi Bilal,
> > 
> > You want to look the Asterisk realtime configuration
> > features if you 
> > want to run your configuration from a database rather than
> > configuration 
> > files.
> > 
> > This should point you in the right direction and get you
> > started:  
> > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+RealTime
> > 
> > It should be noted that if you're wanting to use AsteriskNow
> > (which 
> > relies on FreePBX for its gui configuration features), then
> > Asterisk 
> > realtime configuration will not work as it is not compatible
> > at this 
> > time.  Other web gui's might work, but I am not
> > familiar with them.  
> > FreePBX's sentiment on the subject is shared here:  
> > http://www.freepbx.org/trac/wiki/AsteriskRealtime
> > 
> > -John
> > 
> > On 05/24/2012 05:46 PM, bilal ghayyad wrote:
> > > Thanks for all for the help and kindly reply.
> > >
> > > One last point that will help me alot:
> > >
> > > I am thinking to have 4 Servers running Asterisk and 2
> > Servers to be for database. The load to be distributed on
> > the 4 Asterisk Servers with ability to be redundant (using
> > any redundancy technique). The 4 Asterisk Servers to take
> > the configuration from the Database Server and actually
> > because there is 2 Database servers, then it will be
> > redundant to each other (in case one database failed, the
> > other will take over).
> > >
> > > My question is:
> > >
> > > Is it really possible to have the asterisk
> > configuration in the database server instead of having it in
> > conf files? HOW? I am asking this because what I noticed in
> > AsteriskNow and in A2Billing and Vicidial or Goautodial that
> > whatever I do configuration in the GUI, then the
> > configuration will be generated in the conf files, so
> > Asterisk will read from the conf files and not from the
> > database directly. Is it right or I am confused and there is
> > something else?
> > >
> > > If there is a method to let the configuration to be
> > taken from the database (and not from the configuration),
> > then HOW? Because even in AsteriskNow, the configuration
> > will be generated in a conf files.
> > >
> > > Special thanks for the advise.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Bilal
> > > -------------
> > >
> > >>> Hi All;
> > >>>
> > >>> I need to use Asterisk for 20 000 users, so
> > which
> > >> asterisk version to be used? Is there asterisk
> > version that
> > >> supports 20,000 users on one hardware machine?
> > >>> Can I use one strong hardware server i7 with 64
> > GB RAM
> > >> and fast hard desk to handle 20 000 users, and
> > concurrent
> > >> calls 2000? Or I need multiple servers, how much?
> > >>> If I am going to use multiple servers (until
> > now I do
> > >> not know how much, and I do not know if the barrier
> > will be
> > >> the asterisk software or the hardware), then do I
> > have to
> > >> use special SIP proxy or I have to use load
> > balancer)? In
> > >> this case, I have to use asterisk Database (so all
> > the
> > >> servers will read/write from the database)?
> > >>> What about AsteriskNow, can it support?
> > >> AsteriskNOW is a GUI on top of Asterisk; it does
> > not change
> > >> the ability
> > >> of the system to handle call load.
> > >>
> > >> Modern versions of Asterisk can easily handle
> > 2,000
> > >> simultaneous calls,
> > >> even with media (non-transcoded) passing through
> > the server.
> > >> We have a
> > >> community member who has improved chan_sip in
> > Asterisk 10
> > >> (and later) to
> > >> be able to handle 10,000 simultaneous calls.
> > >>
> > >> Handling 20,000 registrations is probably more of a
> > concern
> > >> for Asterisk
> > >> at this point; I've never heard of anyone
> > attempting to
> > >> handle that many
> > >> on one system.
> > >>
> > >> In spite of all this, though, the other advice
> > you've
> > >> received in this
> > >> thread is sound: even if a single system can handle
> > the
> > >> load, doing so
> > >> is asking for a major problem if that system
> > experiences a
> > >> failure.
> > >> You'd be much better off to at least split the load
> > across
> > >> two machines,
> > >> both of which should be large enough to handle the
> > entire
> > >> load when
> > >> necessary.
> > >>
> > >> -- 
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> 
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