[asterisk-users] twenty thousands (20, 000) users, which asterisk and how many servers

[bilal ghayyad]

Hi John;

For 20,000 users: Is it better to use Asterisk realtime configuration or to use conf files?

I readed the below link but did not understand which GUI that works with asterisk realtime?

http://www.freepbx.org/trac/wiki/AsteriskRealtime


Regards
Bilal

------------
> 
> > My question is:
> >
> > Is it really possible to have the asterisk
> configuration in the database server instead of having it in
> conf files? HOW? I am asking this because what I noticed in
> AsteriskNow and in A2Billing and Vicidial or Goautodial that
> whatever I do configuration in the GUI, then the
> configuration will be generated in the conf files, so
> Asterisk will read from the conf files and not from the
> database directly. Is it right or I am confused and there is
> something else?
> >
> > If there is a method to let the configuration to be
> taken from the database (and not from the configuration),
> then HOW? Because even in AsteriskNow, the configuration
> will be generated in a conf files.
> 
> Hi Bilal,
> 
> You want to look the Asterisk realtime configuration
> features if you 
> want to run your configuration from a database rather than
> configuration 
> files.
> 
> This should point you in the right direction and get you
> started:  
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+RealTime
> 
> It should be noted that if you're wanting to use AsteriskNow
> (which 
> relies on FreePBX for its gui configuration features), then
> Asterisk 
> realtime configuration will not work as it is not compatible
> at this 
> time.  Other web gui's might work, but I am not
> familiar with them.  
> FreePBX's sentiment on the subject is shared here:  
> http://www.freepbx.org/trac/wiki/AsteriskRealtime
> 
> -John
> 
> On 05/24/2012 05:46 PM, bilal ghayyad wrote:
> > Thanks for all for the help and kindly reply.
> >
> > One last point that will help me alot:
> >
> > I am thinking to have 4 Servers running Asterisk and 2
> Servers to be for database. The load to be distributed on
> the 4 Asterisk Servers with ability to be redundant (using
> any redundancy technique). The 4 Asterisk Servers to take
> the configuration from the Database Server and actually
> because there is 2 Database servers, then it will be
> redundant to each other (in case one database failed, the
> other will take over).
> >
> > My question is:
> >
> > Is it really possible to have the asterisk
> configuration in the database server instead of having it in
> conf files? HOW? I am asking this because what I noticed in
> AsteriskNow and in A2Billing and Vicidial or Goautodial that
> whatever I do configuration in the GUI, then the
> configuration will be generated in the conf files, so
> Asterisk will read from the conf files and not from the
> database directly. Is it right or I am confused and there is
> something else?
> >
> > If there is a method to let the configuration to be
> taken from the database (and not from the configuration),
> then HOW? Because even in AsteriskNow, the configuration
> will be generated in a conf files.
> >
> > Special thanks for the advise.
> >
> > Regards
> > Bilal
> > -------------
> >
> >>> Hi All;
> >>>
> >>> I need to use Asterisk for 20 000 users, so
> which
> >> asterisk version to be used? Is there asterisk
> version that
> >> supports 20,000 users on one hardware machine?
> >>> Can I use one strong hardware server i7 with 64
> GB RAM
> >> and fast hard desk to handle 20 000 users, and
> concurrent
> >> calls 2000? Or I need multiple servers, how much?
> >>> If I am going to use multiple servers (until
> now I do
> >> not know how much, and I do not know if the barrier
> will be
> >> the asterisk software or the hardware), then do I
> have to
> >> use special SIP proxy or I have to use load
> balancer)? In
> >> this case, I have to use asterisk Database (so all
> the
> >> servers will read/write from the database)?
> >>> What about AsteriskNow, can it support?
> >> AsteriskNOW is a GUI on top of Asterisk; it does
> not change
> >> the ability
> >> of the system to handle call load.
> >>
> >> Modern versions of Asterisk can easily handle
> 2,000
> >> simultaneous calls,
> >> even with media (non-transcoded) passing through
> the server.
> >> We have a
> >> community member who has improved chan_sip in
> Asterisk 10
> >> (and later) to
> >> be able to handle 10,000 simultaneous calls.
> >>
> >> Handling 20,000 registrations is probably more of a
> concern
> >> for Asterisk
> >> at this point; I've never heard of anyone
> attempting to
> >> handle that many
> >> on one system.
> >>
> >> In spite of all this, though, the other advice
> you've
> >> received in this
> >> thread is sound: even if a single system can handle
> the
> >> load, doing so
> >> is asking for a major problem if that system
> experiences a
> >> failure.
> >> You'd be much better off to at least split the load
> across
> >> two machines,
> >> both of which should be large enough to handle the
> entire
> >> load when
> >> necessary.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Kevin P. Fleming
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