[asterisk-users] No Bull Service Providers

Thu Sep 29 10:40:14 CDT 2011

Hello Tarek,

Thanks again! I will look into TATA. Let's hope their comunication is
better than their cars ;).

Nick.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Nick Khamis <symack at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Jeff,
>
> There will always be fierce competition, we are starting of with
> prepaid for an obvious source of quick revenue, we will also be
> rolling out a few more products in the next year.. It seems like they
> LIE about their LD rates. A company in Australia was
> charged with this not too long ago. Stolen minutes? Not that I would
> be interested in stealing! I just want to be educated
> in such an act.
>
> Of course we don't have to use the same in/outbound providers.  I
> should have been clearer about that. You mentioned Least Cost
> Route/Rate (LCR), any reason why you did not use what is already out
> there? Provided by a2billing etc...? We can also implement something
> using AGI if needed....
>
> Nick.
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere <jeff at sunfone.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Nick Khamis wrote:
>>
>>> I should have mentioned we are interested in international long
>>> distance. That will
>>> be a big part of our business.
>>>
>>
>> It sounds like you are intending to start a calling card company.  Good luck
>> - the competition is fierce, and you will be competing against companies
>> that outright lie about the capacity of their cards, and use stolen minutes
>> to fulfill them as often as they can.
>>
>> If you intend to do wholesale by reselling, you don't need to use the same
>> company for inbound and outbound.  In fact for outbound you will probably
>> have many upstream providers, as your goal will be to find the cheapest
>> reliable route in every case.  You will need to code something for route
>> selection (I did this in C/AGI).
>>
>> For inbound I use IP Comms, which has worked well.  Unlimited inbound per
>> DID, but NOT unlimited channels.  For outbound I had arrangements with STi,
>> Voipjet, and many others for smaller route sets.  I also participated in the
>> wholesale market at Arbinet, who just got bought out by someone...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> j
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Danny Nicholas <danny at debsinc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They aren't everywhere, but we have had good experience with Voicepulse
>>>> and
>>>> their rate is typically less than $0.015 per minute.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>>> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nick Khamis
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:09 AM
>>>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] No Bull Service Providers
>>>>
>>>> Very true... But there should be an equilibrium, the "relaiable service,
>>>> and
>>>> aggressive pricing" comes to meet?
>>>> Guys please share your experiences.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM, C. Savinovich
>>>> <c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In my professional opinion, the phrases "I don't want no Bull service"
>>>>> and "I want the cheapest service" are total contradictions.  Down the
>>>>> road something is not going to give.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> C. Savinovich
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On September 29, 2011 at 10:47 AM Danny Nicholas <danny at debsinc.com>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This belongs on the "commercial" list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>>>>> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nick
>>>>>> Khamis
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:44 AM
>>>>>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>>>>>> Subject: [asterisk-users] No Bull Service Providers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are looking for DID and SIP Termination service providers. Since
>>>>>> there are so many these days, can you guy mention the BIG players
>>>>>> that are supplying the rest of the little guy? We are looking for the
>>>>>> cheapest, and scaleable infrastructure (i.e. unlimited channels for
>>>>>> DID, and trunks for termintation). To summarize we are looking for
>>>>>> the major players in the DID and SIP Trunk market, no/limited
>>>>>> headache. This is for wholesaler service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in Advance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
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