[asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??

Ken Johnson ken at blkdoor.com
Sat May 12 17:02:15 MST 2007


Actually have downloaded a database of over 3000 US numbers in it so 
far, and have a script to return an XML result with data in it. Coding 
of the page to enter data is also on the way and should be up and 
working soon. We are still working on adding the names to the numbers 
that we do have, so the data returns at this time is just that the 
number exists, the last time it was accessed, and the count of how many 
times it has been accessed.

Taking requests if there is more data that would like to be added to the 
results.

Dave Bour wrote:
> As this is a thread off a topic I spun off another thread...some 
> thoughts...or a pooled database of numbers not listed..doesn't even 
> need to be telemarketers.
> 1. track the hit count.and last used..collecitvely..see if a number is 
> still being used...
> 2. name against the company...
> 3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a 
> fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking 
> this was 407 111 1111. Right away, I knew it was a 
> spammer/telemarketer since it's not a valid number...and I was on the 
> offence answering the phone...
> In fact, a possible update to the blacklist function in asterisk is a 
> database tracking of it's usage. is it a one of that hit me 
> once..never called back...
> and another issue is the charity type...what's blacklist to you may 
> not be to me, ie..clothing pickup donation charitys...they really 
> annoy me calling several times a week, but one, I don't block as 
> they're good, their caller id is accurate and they actually leave a 
> message with a number offering you to call back if you have something 
> to pick up (granted it's a recording that does that but at least it's 
> not a hangup). Some may wish to block all those... Political donation 
> type numbers are another one that irk some but not others.
> By putting names against the number and "classification"...you could 
> at least then choose to blacklist once the first call comes in, based 
> on accurate caller id info.
>
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> *From:* asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com 
> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve 
> Totaro
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:26 AM
> *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> *Subject:* RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
>
> Things that will make your idea difficult.
>
> Although telemarketers are supposed to send their CallerID, many if 
> not most, I see “Unkown”. I believe this is illegal but I see it many 
> times a day.
>
> I worked at a company with over one thousand toll free numbers, simply 
> changing outbound CallerID to another number defeats your scripts. I 
> could also change the actual DNIS of these calls, so a telemarketer 
> could easily defeat your mechanism and still be legal.
>
> I could also send any arbitrary ten digit CallerID and DNIS which 
> looks better to the callee than “Unknown” but cannot be associated to 
> a particular telemarketer.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
> http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com/
> KB3OPB
>
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>
> *From:* asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com 
> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Ritesh 
> Agrawal
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:38 PM
> *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??
>
> Thanks everyone for the responses, encouragement and offers to help.
> I will get started on this shortly and circle back with you guys.
> If someone has a starter list, it would help jump start the 
> efforts/motivation :-)
>
> Ritesh
>
>
> On 5/9/07, *Noah Miller* <noahisaacmiller at gmail.com 
> <mailto:noahisaacmiller at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ritesh -
>
> > Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers?
> > Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access?
> >
> > We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-)
> > If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can
> > benefit from.
> >
> > I just need some suggestions on:
> > (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity
> > check)
> > (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase.
>
> Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for
> telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for
> spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database.
> Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the
> www.donotcall.gov <http://www.donotcall.gov> service. If you're in the 
> US and haven't signed up
> for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be
> non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block.
>
>
> - Noah
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